Simulating a room and a mic color with Impulse Reponses ?

Hi. Which version of SONAR do you have?
If on a newer version, perhaps try TH2/3, with a clean setting.
You can choose (some) cabs, mics and fx in the included version.
There are also some ok free amp sims as well.
But, your way should work fine as well.
All the best.

Hi J War.
In the past, there was an educational film by Craig Anderton in the cakewalk shop called:
 
"Sonar X1 Advanced Workshop The Next Level"

The first tutorial in this movie shows how to create virtual room mics as send effects.
Here are two Sonitus reverbs as mics and a perfect space reverb ( a convolution reverb ) as room.
This video is by Craig Anderton. Maybe he will sell you that if you ask him. At least I have not found a dealer who sells it yet.
 
Cheers Tomas

You already have mic/cab characterstics in your signal so you may not get precisely what you want, but imho a convolution reverb might get you where you want to go. The ProChannel ReMatrix reverb supports loading custom IR's. Search for some likely IR's on the next and give 'em a whirl. I found some nice ones (I can't remember where) that I use for vocals reflexively now.
 
Here's an article on simulating various mic response characteristics with IR's:
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/convolution-processing-impulse-responses
 
Perhaps you're already familiar with them but I found this read to be really helpful for me in understanding what IR's are and what they can and cannot do for  you.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/creative-convolution-new-sounds-impulse-responses
 

Thanks guys for you answers !
I'm using Waves IR1 and would like to import an existing IR into it.
The custom IR i found so far are room only, it misses the Mic ! ;)
 
@Zargg : Watched some demos of the King Microphone, that's the idea ! I doubt the sound itself is realy suitable tho. :D

Sure ! Thanks for the help !

How terrible was the mic used on the cab that you would want to color it?  
 
I've done recordings with the absolute holy grail of guitar amps and the holy grail of guitar cabs.  
 
The best sounding Mics on guitar amps are not U87s for example.  
 
Just add convolution reverb to create some depth.  
 
 

Personally I wouldn’t bother trying to “colour” an ambience reverb with a fake microphone response. No-one will notice if you don’t and microphones are a compromise forced on us in the first place because they’re needed to record acoustic sound. Many expensive microphones cost what they do because the manufacturer is trying very hard to avoid them changing the sound within the parameters of their designed usage.

If you really do want to add some mic “colour”, put the reverb on a send bus and just copy the frequency plot of the mic you want to “use” into an eq placed after the reverb. It’ll be close enough.

Bear in mind that the original audio will already be coloured by whatever mic was used to record it and you’ll be piling additional mic response curves on top of the existing mic response curve in the source. You may well get better sounding results by using the reverb “raw” or eqing it so it sounds best.

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Oh it's quite logical indeed ! Thanks for the explanation Mister Happy !

J-War
"just copy the frequency plot of the mic you want to “use”" : <<< i actualy don't know were to find a reliable way to do this. You mean checking the official frequency response of the mic and drawing something close on an EQ by hand ?
 

Yeah, pretty much. You could start by copying the U87 plot rsinger’s posted above for example. It’s not like the room reverb is likely to be so dominant anyone can tell which, if any, mic was used to record it anyway. And reverbs, either “real” or “virtual”, often need eq to get them to sit in the right place as much as anything else does, so assuming you’re after a realistic guitar sound rather than something obviously heavily processed why make eqing the reverb more complicated by applying a mic response curve to it first?

Your source audio will already be coloured by however it was recorded in the first place. So a reverb added to that is not going to sound exactly like it was recorded at the time the cab was recorded only with different mics at a different distance. It will be reverb added to whatever frequency response the cab mic has already imposed on the audio, and by adding a simulated microphone response to the reverb you’ll basically be layering another mic response over the top of the cab mic’s response.

Sure, you can add mic IRs to the reverb, I just question whether it’s worth the effort.

As for layering different guitar tones, that’s a different matter.

Antares have a plugin called Mic Mod fx. It’s very good and has dozens of mic emulations as well as multiple other controls