Toddskins
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Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tracks
Since creating the other thread, and being exposed to so much and the complications of trying to achieve guitar realism (like wow, it's overwhelming), I thought it might be worth creating this special thread to see if there are any Cakewalk users who having gained a lot of experience over the years with their Guitar VSTi knowledge, and might be inclined to offer their services for a fee, if any users (like myself) recorded the guitar track as best as one could (to get the idea across), but then "you" would make edits to improve that track. Or even use your own VSTi and use "my" MIDI notes, but your guitar sound (is this legal to do?) and substitute it into "my" or "our" Sonar project (.CWB).
I suppose the .CWB file would be sent to such a person including both the MIDI and Audio track to get across the idea as best as possible.
Let me know if this is a good idea, or not. I'll be glad to delete this thread if it's not legal for others to sub their own guitar recorded VSTi for my own, but if I happen to buy the same VSTi as you might own, then you could certainly do editing on it.
Good or bad idea?
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/03 23:53:34
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I would think you'd want to provide two rough mixes, one with and one without your MIDI guitar part, and send them to a real guitar player who could then duplicate the part using a real guitar. Sometimes the right player might even come up with something you like better than your original idea. By the way, I'm not good enough to do this for you, but there are lot of players here who are.
PS: Isn't this what Bandlab is for?
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/04 05:50:09
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You should post this in the songs forum and see who wants to collaborate. Don't be shy, lots of people love to add tracks to a good project.
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/04 10:24:40
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Hi. I agree. Post in the songs forum, and ask if anyone (real guitarists) is interested in doing this. Many talented musicians here  When I collaborate, we (most often) use a "tracking shell" (which is the project, without any data) with markers to provide info of what goes where. I get stems of the song, and/or a stereo mix. Then I do my part. All the best.
post edited by Zargg - 2018/04/04 12:49:41
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/04 12:38:22
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/04/04 12:49:26
Zargg
Hi. I agree. Post in the dongs forum, and ask if anyone (real guitarists) is interested in doing this.
The WHAT forum? lol
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
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Zargg
Hi. I agree. Post in the dongs forum, and ask if anyone (real guitarists) is interested in doing this.
The WHAT forum? lol
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/04/04 14:55:42
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/04 16:53:17
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/04/04 18:45:29
Having a proficient guitarist contribute to your song is a good idea and all, but such suggestions don't address the original post. Toddskins is looking for someone to polish HIS tracks, his MIDI.
Unfortunately, for that to be a viable option anyone looking to fix up your track would need to also own the same instrument. Every sampled guitar has a different set of implemented articulations, and each uses its own keyswitched or velocity-dependent articulation selection scheme.
Q: are you a proficient keyboard player?
If so, it's just a matter of practice (OK, a lot of practice) to develop playing techniques that translate to a credible faux-guitar (or any other instrument) performance. (Hint: your pitch bender is your best friend.)
If you are not a keyboardist, start by learning every capability your sample library offers. Then experiment with switching articulations and hand-editing velocities in the PRV (a guitarist never hits every note with the same force). Listen closely to the vendor's demo tracks, as they will give you an idea of what the library is capable of.
In either case, several vendors offer sample MIDI tracks for download, which is great because you can see exactly how they got their results (almost always far superior to your own first attempts!). Orange Tree and Indiginus both include some sample MIDI in the install (look in the Demo Song subdirectory for OTS, or the Demo Materials / MIDI demo subfolders for Indiginus).
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/05 22:23:12
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Having a proficient guitarist contribute to your song is a good idea and all, but such suggestions don't address the original post. Toddskins is looking for someone to polish HIS tracks, his MIDI.
I made my suggestion specifically not to address the original request, but to steer Todd away from that idea. If one is going to bring in a collaborator on a "guitar" track, why not use a guitar player and a real guitar? Maybe it's just me, but I assume you'd use a sampled guitar because you want a guitar sound and you don't play guitar. On the other hand, if Todd is looking for lessons on simulating guitar, never mind. 
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Re: Electric Guitar VSTi part II - Cakewalk users willing to be paid to perfect guitar tra
2018/04/07 01:40:52
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I agree with Mesh. I'm out.
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