iRelevant
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Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
If you have something no longer in use, send me a PM.
Also interested in DOS days DAWs if license transfer is legit btw.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/15 18:04:34
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man you got to be up to something really interesting!!!!
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Cactus Music
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
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☼ Best Answerby iRelevant 2018/04/16 03:21:48
I do believe most of those old sequencing software's are now freeware. I had an old XP computer set up with the Atari Emulator called STeam. And I could run Dr T which is now all free. There's a site called Tims Atari world http://atari-music.fddvoron.name/ There might be something like that for the DOS era PC sequencers. I have stuff from the 80's era gathering dust but never have the heart to part with it. My 505, Korg DW 8000, Yamaha YMM2 merge box, Roland SDE 1000 delay
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iRelevant
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/16 03:28:48
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Maybe it's free ware, but it would be cool to have the original box/manual :)
I've heard about the Steam, but never gotten around to trying it. Been considering
getting an old Atari ST and some software ... but haven't gotten around to that either.
The SDE 1000 looks nice, I just got myself an SDE-2500 ... enjoy real delays. Their charming.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/16 16:07:13
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Doubt if there is still an Atari that runs, mine lasted for 20 years but the Monitor died and that was it. None of the parts were interchangable with PC I think. Even the hard drive was weird. The RAM was.
But STeam is exactly the same as having the Atari. But it helps to have an older PC with a Floppy drive.
You can even run Cubase made for Atari with it.
I havn't tried running it on W7 or 10 but looking on the web site, being open source, people have been updating it.
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iRelevant
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/16 16:31:40
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Thanks for the info, I might give it a go when I have the time.
I understood there where some issues with the MIDI in the emulator,
but it will be more convenient that getting the actual real deal.
Saw somebody locally selling an ST1024 as-is, wanted a fortune for it
... as it is "rare" ... I've come to hate the word "vintage".
It has for me become a synonym with "old crap" sold for the price of new.
Maybe I'm just grumpy :P
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/16 16:48:00
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Cactus Music
Doubt if there is still an Atari that runs, mine lasted for 20 years but the Monitor died and that was it. None of the parts were interchangable with PC I think. Even the hard drive was weird. The RAM was.
But STeam is exactly the same as having the Atari. But it helps to have an older PC with a Floppy drive.
You can even run Cubase made for Atari with it.
I havn't tried running it on W7 or 10 but looking on the web site, being open source, people have been updating it.
My Atari is still alive & well but I also have an XP machine running STeam, more convenient ... and I have a Commodore C64 up and running with the MSSIHA cartridge, a modern Midi interface/sequencer/drum machine/synth http://www.mssiah.com/index.php Great fun!  Regards, Thomas
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iRelevant
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/16 18:00:15
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Sound like a cool setup :) May I ask how you have sorted out the MIDI side of STeam on your XP machine ? What i/f do you use ?
- Sven
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
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TotteG
My Atari is still alive & well but I also have an XP machine running STeam, more convenient ... and I have a Commodore C64 up and running with the MSSIHA cartridge, a modern Midi interface/sequencer/drum machine/synth http://www.mssiah.com/index.php Great fun!
I should not have clicked on that link - that looks really cool! I had (still have I guess) a Commodore SX-64 in which I had the SCI MIDI interface/cartridge. When I let people into the studio (a while ago now that I think) I had that set up with the keyboards, it fascinated an awful lot of clients. These days I am still playing around with an Amiga emulator to run Bars&Pipes, ,but then I get bored with the whole thing and just fire up the Amiga if I really want to use it.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/18 12:21:58
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iRelevant
Sound like a cool setup :) May I ask how you have sorted out the MIDI side of STeam on your XP machine ? What i/f do you use ?
- Sven
Hi Sven! Normal MIDI messages works but not SysEx dumps ... so Midi Sequencers like Cubase works but editors for external hardware that sending/receiving SysEx dumps won't work unfortunately. I now mostly use it to convert old Cubase .all songs to Midi-files but sometimes it's fun to start a song on in old Cubase, just basic midi, fast and easy, then export the midi to you DAW  You can use the available midi ports in XP, Virtual, LPT or Com ports. I have CoolSoft Virtual Midi Synth + FluidR3 GM soundfont installed in XP and selected as output device in STeam for easy audition of Cubase songs. http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth Regards, Thomas
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
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TotteG
My Atari is still alive & well but I also have an XP machine running STeam, more convenient ... and I have a Commodore C64 up and running with the MSSIHA cartridge, a modern Midi interface/sequencer/drum machine/synth http://www.mssiah.com/index.php Great fun!
I should not have clicked on that link - that looks really cool!
I had (still have I guess) a Commodore SX-64 in which I had the SCI MIDI interface/cartridge. When I let people into the studio (a while ago now that I think) I had that set up with the keyboards, it fascinated an awful lot of clients.
These days I am still playing around with an Amiga emulator to run Bars&Pipes, ,but then I get bored with the whole thing and just fire up the Amiga if I really want to use it.
Wow! Commodore SX-64 Cool This guy seems to have to much spare time, crazy machine with the MSSIHA cartridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUCRPcqe2-w Regards, Thomas
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/18 16:23:28
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I played with my old friend Dr T but it was kind of pointless. It was fun remembering how it all worked. The free version is an update from the one I had used so it was different.
But I found myself spending hours as I played Buggy boy and Tetrus. I have an old Microsoft joystick that also only runs on XP.
I wouldn't pay money for an old Atari as the Hard drive is probably dead or almost. Also the Floppy drives often failed. I remember paying $200 for a new Floppy drive! And all the parts are not the same as Apple or PC. Only the RAM.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/18 17:49:56
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TotteG
iRelevant
Sound like a cool setup :) May I ask how you have sorted out the MIDI side of STeam on your XP machine ? What i/f do you use ?
- Sven
Hi Sven! Normal MIDI messages works but not SysEx dumps ... so Midi Sequencers like Cubase works but editors for external hardware that sending/receiving SysEx dumps won't work unfortunately.
I now mostly use it to convert old Cubase .all songs to Midi-files but sometimes it's fun to start a song on in old Cubase, just basic midi, fast and easy, then export the midi to you DAW
You can use the available midi ports in XP, Virtual, LPT or Com ports.
I have CoolSoft Virtual Midi Synth + FluidR3 GM soundfont installed in XP and selected as output device in STeam for easy audition of Cubase songs.
http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth
Regards, Thomas
Thanks for the info Thomas. Great. I think regular MIDI will do the job for me, no need for SysEx at the moment. - Sven
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/18 18:45:47
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Cactus Music
I played with my old friend Dr T but it was kind of pointless. It was fun remembering how it all worked. The free version is an update from the one I had used so it was different.
But I found myself spending hours as I played Buggy boy and Tetrus. I have an old Microsoft joystick that also only runs on XP.
I wouldn't pay money for an old Atari as the Hard drive is probably dead or almost. Also the Floppy drives often failed. I remember paying $200 for a new Floppy drive! And all the parts are not the same as Apple or PC. Only the RAM.
OK. Didn't think of that Drive thing. Saw local add where they wanted $100 for an old one, since it was "rare" ... but I guess it is a certain repair project then. They couldn't tell if it was working, as they didn't have a suitable monitor, so they tried to sell it as-is. See a lot of my QD drives in old samplers and synths have gone tits up due to the rubber belt turning to glue. Working on repairing an old Roland S-10 and it's still work in progress, changed the belt ... but looks like the drive itself is broken.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/19 03:15:47
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Without the Atari Monitor your dead in the water, That's what happened to mine. It even had some sort of Video port on the back but because I could't see to make the change in the control panel that was it.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/23 06:10:13
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)-|-( HeatherHaze http://heatherhaze.com/ "This will be our reply to violence: to make music more intensely, more beautifully, more devotedly than ever before." ~ Leonard Bernstein Cakewalk by Bandlab Studio One 3.5, Cubase 9.5 Intel Core i7 8700, 32Gb RAM Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 V-Studio VS-700 Slate Raven MTi2 Windows 10 Professional 64-bit ...and a whole bunch of other stuff.
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Re: Interested in buying obsolete MIDI equipment from the DOS era.
2018/04/24 03:28:47
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DAW: CbB; Sonar Platinum, and others ...
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