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Problems after the CbB 4.28 update. [Solved]
I have the impression that the recent update, while working fine, somehow interfered with my x32-bit Sonar VS install. I can no longer insert ReWire instruments (option is grayed out) ... also all my 32-bit Sonitus:fx plugins have gone missing. Despite un-installing CbB and Re-installing Sonar VS, I'm not able to fix this. Anybody have any idea what can be done to fix this ?
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/28 23:28:14
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I found that installing the latest Sonar Platinum 32-bit version sorted things out. Every things back to how they should be. Will hold on a bit on the install of the latest version, not a good idea to do a new install while you are in the middle of a project.
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/29 00:42:01
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The CbB install won't affect the 32 bit components since it doesn't install any.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/29 01:39:29
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Yes it doesn't make sense, yet the only thing that changed on my system was the install of BA v3.0.8 + CbB v4.28 + The install of optional extras (excluding Melodyne). After checking out the great update, I switched back to finish off a 32 bit project in Sonar VS. And on starting up everything was a mess ... VS couldn't find any instruments, ReWire's missing and option greyed out, DX + Sonitus plugins not found.
To try to solve the problem I reinstalled Sonar VS + FLS10 (ReWire client) but surprisingly it didn't help on the situation. I then un-installed CbB, no difference, BA ... no difference. I was thinking about rolling back the system to a restore point, but gave one last try ... and installed the last 32-bit version of Platinum ... and all problems where gone.
At the time before the problems starting I had the following Cakes installed, Sonar VS, Sonar Home ed (32-bit), Sonar Platinum (x64 bit), a demo of Project5 v2, and BA v3.0.6. I can't say for certain that there is a connection to BA v3.0.8 and CbB v4.28. Will finish of the current project before I re-install BA and CbB, will update result of it here soon. It's probably just a coincidence.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/29 03:07:20
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/30 08:54:33
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After removal, I've re-installed BA v3.0.8 and CbB v 24.04.1 Build 28[2018.04] ... and am positive that the install of CbB destroys my Sonar VS install exactly as earlier. Similar Story with Platinum x32 and Home ed x32.
In essence the current installer destroys the 32-bit versions environment.
I observed a curious thing during the install, I chose the Advanced Installation type ... left it at default suggestions ... but I register that for Shared Folders, the option is greyed out and locked ... at C:\Program Files (x86\CackeWalk, next windows for VST Folder is also in the same state ... locked at ... C:\Program Files (x86)\Vstplugins. Both of these defaults seems counter intuitive for a x64 bit app. Could there be some cause of the problems here ?
I also register that I've gotten the weird folder : VstPlugIns(x64) under C:\Program Files, as well as the identical folder and content under C:\Program Files (x86).
I'm messing around at the moment to see if I can find some solution to this.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/30 09:07:52
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☼ Best Answerby iRelevant 2018/04/30 16:04:20
Those values are stored in a registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\VSTPlugins
Try checking and changing that before the install.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/30 12:03:51
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☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2018/04/30 12:33:15
Thank you very much ... that made it possible for me to install Platinum x64 and get it to open and run.
The quick solution for me have however been to re-install the 32-bit version of platinum again, then sonar VS also work properly. The drawback was that I, until now, where not able to open Platinum x64 and CbB complained about how it couldn't find plugins. Looks like it is a bit of a hassle running x64 and 32-bit version on same machine. I'm able to run either 32 bit or x64-bit versions without problems ... the combination doesn't work out well for me.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/04/30 16:13:01
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@KPerry. Taking your advice sorted out the Sonar part completely, and half way CbB. It now installs with the presumed correct folder destinations as far as I can see, yet somethings is not good with the location of the plug ins for CbB. It can't find a lot of them, amongst some for the Pro Channel. It's complaining that it can't find stuff its referring to in the x86 folder section. Must have been some entry in the register I missed before installing.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/01 16:11:55
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While this Register Voodo fixed all of my Sonar related problems, as well as CbB indicated install paths ...
I would like to report following problems that remain :
1. Problems with missing plug-ins in the ProChannel. Following plugs report VST Plug-In Error message on selection :
PCS-BusCM.dll, PCS-CakeSM.dll, PCS-GlossEQM.dll and PCS-NukeCM.dll. The error message is like this : "The following VST plug-in failed to load c:\program files (x86)\cakewlk\shared utilities\internal\<Insert afore mentioned *.dll here> This messages appear when I try to active the related module in the Prochannel, they are visible ... and everything looks good.
2. Usage of RaptureLE1 (Not marked as 32-bit) loads fine, but upon selection of program ... plays a few notes and crashes CbB totally. System is making sound as a broken CD record, the Fault reporter comes up ... but is not able to complete due to communication problems ... and ultimately entire program needs to be shut down in task manager.
Apart from that everything seems to be working just fine on my end.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/01 16:14:10
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Edit : there is a typo in the file path above, but don't are edit post in case it is deleted as spam.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/02 19:36:56
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
The CbB install won't affect the 32 bit components since it doesn't install any.
That seems to be true, but how come a x64 bit app it is looking for some of it's components in a 32-bit location ? I just did a clean install of the latest CbB, and have it complaining about not finding plug-ins for the ProChannel in the "c:\program files (x86)\cakewalk\shared utilities\internal\..." location. Why would a x64 bit App look for plugs there ? Is there any way of changing this ? Also when installing the Theme Editor the default proposed install location is the 32-bit section (\Program Files x86\...) which is a weird default path for a presumed x64 bit app.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 16:16:38
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☄ Helpfulby iRelevant 2018/05/03 18:08:44
Search for that path as Data in the registry to find where it's referenced.
IIRC Theme Editor is a 32-bit executable. Not much value in making an x64 version, and having to manage and distribute both, when the 32-bit flavor will suffice for both O/S flavors.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 16:23:13
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as there's no 32 bit cbb, one might expect the "suite" to all be x64
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 18:22:07
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brundlefly
Search for that path as Data in the registry to find where it's referenced.
IIRC Theme Editor is a 32-bit executable. Not much value in making an x64 version, and having to manage and distribute both, when the 32-bit flavor will suffice for both O/S flavors.
Thanks man, following your advice made me able to sort things out. Now everything is good with my CbB Pro Channel. It was a bit tricky as there where 4 different references to the path : c:\program files (x86)\cakewalk\shared utilities\internal\PCS-BusCM.dll but I gambled on the first I found ... and won ... the key is : HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\c:/program files (x86)/cakewalk/shared utilities/internal/PCS-BusCM.dll I then modified this key to refer to "program files" instead of "program files (x86)" ... did this in a similar manner for the 3 other problem modules also found in the same register area ... and now everything is good. Once again, thanks a million for all the help. Much appreciated. - Sven
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 18:38:51
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For DAWs with a ProChannel, the path to the PC modules is stored in the registry and automatically added to the scan path. There is a path associated with every VST Inventory. For example, CbB uses HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\VSTInternalPath
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 20:35:19
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scook
For DAWs with a ProChannel, the path to the PC modules is stored in the registry and automatically added to the scan path. There is a path associated with every VST Inventory. For example, CbB uses HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\Cakewalk\Cakewalk VST X64\VSTInternalPath
Interesting, thanks for the tip. I have 3 entries under this key at the moment : Name Type Data (Default) REG_SZ (value not set) C:\Program Files (86)\... REG_SZ C:\Program Files (86)\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\Internal C:\Program Files\... REG_SZ C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\Internal I'm not sure what to do, will try to delete the x86 entry ... as I guess it's not supposed to be there.
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 20:47:49
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CbB should only have the 64bit path
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Re: Problems after the CbB 4.28 update.
2018/05/03 22:19:56
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scook
CbB should only have the 64bit path
Good. Then thats sorted out. Thank you very much for your help.
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