Horsefight
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/26 21:07:24
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Noice, I'll have a stab when I get home tonight
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samson7842
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 08:00:59
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Anyone check it out, yet? I'm antsy, but can't get back to my computer till tomorrow afternoon.
Was hoping someone would have some good news. ...lol
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 08:01:00
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 08:33:43
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Yup, updates got installed tonight and now it's all back to normal Weird that is was (essentially) Microsoft that fixed it in the end, must've been causing some other issues somewhere
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 09:30:19
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Horsefight Yup, updates got installed tonight and now it's all back to normal Weird that is was (essentially) Microsoft that fixed it in the end, must've been causing some other issues somewhere
definitely weird, when ni were blaming bandlab, and bandlab said they're working on fix...
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 09:44:36
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pwalpwal
Horsefight Yup, updates got installed tonight and now it's all back to normal Weird that is was (essentially) Microsoft that fixed it in the end, must've been causing some other issues somewhere
definitely weird, when ni were blaming bandlab, and bandlab said they're working on fix...
In case my original guess was right, there is nothing weird: both Banlab and NI initializing some MS library and, as I have mentioned before, unlike many (all?) other DAWs, there is a big chance the instance of the library is the same. It can be the problem has appeared in many applications, Sonar/CbB is using MS recommended way to deal with the runtime. So MS has decided to rule it on own end.
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 09:46:22
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 10:01:03
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azslow3
pwalpwal
Horsefight Yup, updates got installed tonight and now it's all back to normal Weird that is was (essentially) Microsoft that fixed it in the end, must've been causing some other issues somewhere
definitely weird, when ni were blaming bandlab, and bandlab said they're working on fix...
In case my original guess was right, there is nothing weird: both Banlab and NI initializing some MS library and, as I have mentioned before, unlike many (all?) other DAWs, there is a big chance the instance of the library is the same. It can be the problem has appeared in many applications, Sonar/CbB is using MS recommended way to deal with the runtime. So MS has decided to rule it on own end.
blocked midi ports? at least it's fixed
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Horsefight
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 21:15:22
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Well yeah, clearly it's a shared component, but usually when changes like this happen the third parties have to fall in line and change their software, and it's just amusing that while everyone was trying to get answers out of BL and NI, MS was quietly in the back ground correcting a mistake
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samson7842
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/27 21:28:48
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Working! Has anyone let Bandlab know?
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/28 09:15:20
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Yes it works --- whoaaaaaa Its been a long time coming but the new windows 10 release ending 917 works --- People power Many Thanks to whoever solved the problem
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/28 09:40:18
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samson7842 Working! Has anyone let Bandlab know?
yeah! we must let them know!
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Re: [Solved] Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/28 12:31:59
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samson7842 Working! Has anyone let Bandlab know?
Please, edit the OP and add [Solved] to the subject.
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azslow3
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/28 17:11:57
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godino Many Thanks to whoever solved the problem
The same people have broke it without explaining you why. I will say "well, at least they have repaired it after...". And NI people have no idea how to fix own problem (even if MS was responsible for that, they could clearly see what is going on and make a workaround). But would I say "thanks" to any party participated in that story? No way! I will never buy NI hardware. And I will evaporate Windows partition the first moment I can do everything on Linux. And that time is getting close. I boot Windows like once per half a year at work. And I have a DAW which works on Linux. I just hope RME can release Linux drivers.
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/29 18:03:33
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godino
The same people have broke it without explaining you why. I will say "well, at least they have repaired it after...". And NI people have no idea how to fix own problem (even if MS was responsible for that, they could clearly see what is going on and make a workaround). But would I say "thanks" to any party participated in that story? No way! I will never buy NI hardware. And I will evaporate Windows partition the first moment I can do everything on Linux. And that time is getting close. I boot Windows like once per half a year at work. And I have a DAW which works on Linux. I just hope RME can release Linux drivers.
Someone has fixed the problem - and for that I am grateful Lets hope Linux and RME Never release versions that contains errors ---- you could end up with no software at all!! -----
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azslow3
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/07/29 19:38:14
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godino Someone has fixed the problem - and for that I am grateful
If NI could fix it 1-2 days after report, it could be worse to say them big thanks. That was NI problem, but thanks could be for the reaction time. If Bandlab could implement a workaround within 1-2 weeks, big thanks could go to them. That was not Bandlab problem. But the problem was triggered by MS. Do you know why they broken it? Have they tell you? No. After a while, I guess triggered by more then one case, they have fixed it. Ok. If in the garage someone will break your car during inspection and then fix what they have broken, 2-3 month later... Will you also say them "many thanks!" ? Lets hope Linux and RME Never release versions that contains errors ---- you could end up with no software at all!! -----
So far, from what I could observe, RME fix problems within days. Linux has much more problem then MS, hardware producers rarely develop drivers for it. But you do not have forced updates and in good distributions the granularity what you updates is fine. You can say you want security updates only, software updates, system components updates and separately the kernel updates (and so the whole set of drivers). You can have several kernels and switch them on boot. You can revert any update individually, without reverting the rest. Each update of each package is documented, apart from the fact you have the source code. Finally, you can have so called "chroot" environment. I use it a lot. It is like having Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows XP, Windows 7 and 8 in Windows 10 installation, complete, with all software and libraries, without any virtualization penalty. So if some program works, you can run it (native!) virtually forever, even in case it is not compatible with the current system.
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/08/03 01:58:13
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Thank you guys for all the help and info. Did the Microsoft Update and ALL IS WELL!!!
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Re: Native Intruments Komplete Kontrol VST and Hardware wont work
2018/08/03 16:22:06
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