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Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
I was in contact with Native Intrumets and they say that Cakewalk by BandLab is not supported from them. They (at least the servise worker i talked with) consider CbB a new DAW.
It would be great to also get full support of their hardware as Sonar didn't have. There was some functions missing.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 08:07:18
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I would guess that according to their compatibility qualifications, they need to do compatibility testing on CbB. Now, 99.9% of us here know that's unnecessary and that CbB pretty much has the same code as Sonar Platinum, but that's their policy. As for incompatibility, what have you experienced? I have NI Komplete 11 and can run everything just fine.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 08:15:40
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He's talking Hardware not Software
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ØSkald
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 10:01:02
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It is the Komplete Kpntrol S61. It does not show any info on its screens when using CbB. Same with Sonar and Studio One.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 11:56:19
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This is a bit hacky, but maybe worth a try if you're feeling brave...
I suspect the Komplete Kontrol software is querying the name host application to see if it's supported.
If it's just by filename, you could try:
go to C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core
Copy cakewalk.exe
rename the copy to SONARPLT.exe, then run that.
If this doesn't work, I guess you need to find a resource editor to change the details of the exe to match what SPLAT was.
So: Filename: SONARPLT.exe
Original filename: SONAR.exe
Product Name: SONAR Platinum
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 12:21:08
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well meng has a relatively bottomless purse so here's hoping...
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 13:15:35
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I think no plugins/VSTi's company has fully supported "Cakewalk by Bandlab" as of yet.
All the ones I've seen (Celemony, iZotope, etc..) still list "Sonar" as a supported DAW, but not the aforementioned.
Mind you, it is likely just a matter of time. They might not want to spare resources at the moment towards testing a DAW that, informally speaking, only changed it's name.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/26 19:30:28
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☄ Helpfulby Steev 2018/05/27 19:20:52
It remains to be seen how popular SONAR will become. Those of us who have put $$$$$ into Cakewalk products over the years will be flabbergasted if it does not become a major force in the universe at the new price. On the other hand I recall a friend who was selling a litter of puppies for $1500.00 a piece. When I asked her why so much, she told me "No one would take them for free."
If SONAR does become a major player, then it will be in the interest of ancillary suppliers of software and hardware to prioritize testing and coordinating SONAR compatibility. That is after all how they sell their stuff.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/27 14:06:44
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msmcleod
This is a bit hacky, but maybe worth a try if you're feeling brave...
M.
thanks
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/27 14:16:02
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It remains to be seen how popular SONAR will become. Those of us who have put $$$$$ into Cakewalk products over the years will be flabbergasted if it does not become a major force in the universe at the new price. On the other hand I recall a friend who was selling a litter of puppies for $1500.00 a piece. When I asked her why so much, she told me "No one would take them for free."
If SONAR does become a major player, then it will be in the interest of ancillary suppliers of software and hardware to prioritize testing and coordinating SONAR compatibility. That is after all how they sell their stuff.
That part about the danger if it is free, is really true. But I think that this also is a marketing thing. Not only by BandLab, but us too. Most of us have more than one DAW installed. I have CbB, Sonar, Studio One and Cubase Pro. But I am using CbB now. We don’t need to convince our musician friends that CbB is the only one. That is almost impossible. But we can convince them that they can try it out for free. It is not going to stop working after 14 days. And if you don’t like it as your main DAW it is useful as a second DAW or third or forth. Why? Because, if someone using this software wants co cooperate on songs, it is much more convenient to use the same DAW.
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Steev
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/27 19:31:02
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☄ Helpfulby Jarsve 2018/05/27 23:13:42
slartabartfast
It remains to be seen how popular SONAR will become. Those of us who have put $$$$$ into Cakewalk products over the years will be flabbergasted if it does not become a major force in the universe at the new price. On the other hand I recall a friend who was selling a litter of puppies for $1500.00 a piece. When I asked her why so much, she told me "No one would take them for free."
If SONAR does become a major player, then it will be in the interest of ancillary suppliers of software and hardware to prioritize testing and coordinating SONAR compatibility. That is after all how they sell their stuff.
Well Ray Charles did record his last album with SONAR soooo... I'm pretty sure it's been on the map as a major player for quite some time now..
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/28 17:52:04
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Steev
slartabartfast
If SONAR does become a major player, then it will be in the interest of ancillary suppliers of software and hardware to prioritize testing and coordinating SONAR compatibility. That is after all how they sell their stuff.
Well Ray Charles did record his last album with SONAR soooo...
I'm pretty sure it's been on the map as a major player for quite some time now..
The issue remains that for a fair number of ancillary product suppliers, it has not always been major enough to justify the testing and willingness to provide support that some of the other major players have received. SONAR has often been AWOL from lists of supported DAW's that these developers provide in descriptions of their products. In many cases the products will work in SONAR, of course, since SONAR adheres pretty closely to the de facto standards, but it has apparently not been seen as a marketing priority by many developers to confirm that fact for SONAR users.
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Re: Will BandLab make a deal with NativeIntruments so their hardware gets support?
2018/05/28 23:12:00
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It should be becoming clear that what we understand as 'the music industry' is in a contraction phase. In historical context - this is known as the rubberband effect. If you think about the way a rubberband behaves, you pull the band apart and at a particular point the rubberband can no longer be stretched. It's at this point - the rubberband contracts and contracts rather rapidly. My point being, music creation software is pretty much valueless. It's only companies like Presonus which got into the software market to support their hardware that are still making money. The music software companies still standing generally have strong hardware makers behind them. Logic and Apple, Cubase and Yamaha for example. Bandlab is trying to circumvent this paradigm with a different conceit which is the social media aspect.
Personally for me, I'm sticking with my paid version of Sonar for as long as possiable. I too have some problem with the concept of free. Even a nominal price like Reaper would be better than the current model. But again, this is the new model and paradgim. Fortunately all music making software these days is what I call mature - this is the wall that probably finished Cakewalk. Gibson failing didn't help, but Sonar worked (Yes not for some, but that was the owners fault and the choice of hardware) and had a full suite of tools - it was getting harder to sell the upgrades.
My only advice is hold tight, because in a market in contraction - there should be plenty of opportunities.
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