Mad_Musicologist
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Where is the MASTER track gone?
Seems a stupid question: If I create a 16 track project, all tracks are being routed to the MASTER. Now in my project I have 16 MIDI tracks which of course trigger instruments. Some audio output of thise instruments is being routed to busses to have a "common FX" applied to the sounds. Some others go "out", I can hear them, but the output isn't "MASTER". Now I am almost ready with the mix and wished to add some mastering applications to the MASTER. But I do not seem to find that console anymore. I cannot have deleted that, can I ? But if I could have done so, how can I get a new one? I know, that's a dummy one. But I can't finish my thing. Of courde I could do a raw mix, and remaster that in a new project. The disadvantage is, if I find that after mastering an instrument is to prominent, I first have to readjust everyting in the raw mix and do things again. I need the MASTER back in my original project. Pleeeeeaaazzzzzzz.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 05:01:54
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Mad_Musicologist I cannot have deleted that, can I ? But if I could have done so, how can I get a new one?
Yes, it is just a check mark next to "Set as Default Bus" on the context menu of a bus labeled Master. Right-click a bus and enable "Set as Default Bus." All future buses, audio and instrument tracks will automatically set their output to the default bus. Select all existing tracks as necessary to re-route them to the new bus. Rename the new default bus as needed.
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Mad_Musicologist
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 11:34:15
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Mad_Musicologist I cannot have deleted that, can I ? But if I could have done so, how can I get a new one?
Yes, it is just a check mark next to "Set as Default Bus" on the context menu of a bus labeled Master.
I do not see a bus labeled Master. :-( And I do not see such a thing as "Set as Default Bus". scook Right-click a bus and enable "Set as Default Bus." All future buses, audio and instrument tracks will automatically set their output to the default bus. Select all existing tracks as necessary to re-route them to the new bus. Rename the new default bus as needed.
When I can see that I will try it out. Anyway, thanks for your reply.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 12:54:30
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☄ Helpfulby digimidi 2018/07/21 15:09:50
Here is a Track View bus area of a project without a "Master" bus and how to create it. The only thing special about the master bus is the "Set as Default Bus" option on the bus context menu.
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Mad_Musicologist
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 15:02:25
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Looks nice, but: I could create that bus only in the console view. And now, upon starting playback, I hear only a deafening double click, the new Master bus shows extreme clipping, and then: nothing. total silence. And that "Set as default bus": I do not see it. Well, I do not know how this would look in the language I am using by default (German), but from the meaning of the command it should be something like "Als Standard Bus setzen". But I don't see anything comparable or equivalent to this. I also note, in my track view the tracs have numbers, your screenshot shows letters. Seems I got it all wrong.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 15:26:41
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In scook's screenshot, those are buses, not tracks.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 15:37:36
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☄ Helpfulby Mad_Musicologist 2018/07/21 17:08:59
In the track view, tracks are numbered, buses have letters. The documentation for the track view is here. It includes a section on the bus pane. There is a button at the bottom of the track pane to show/hide the bus pane. The Console View has similar context menus as the Track View. There is not enough information to discuss the result of adding the bus. Your posts lack any hardware or software specs.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 15:40:06
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You can create a new bus when you insert an audio track. http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Arranging.04.html Scroll down to "Create audio tracks", and you will see an option "Create Bus" (Assign the new track output(s) to a new stereo bus.) The busses in the project are viewable in the bus strips in the track pane (if they are hidden, you may need to slide them up with the mouse), as well as the bus strips in the console view.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 16:53:50
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You can see "Set as default bus" in the console view too. I guess because you are right clicking at wrong area. (i.g. at Volume slider, at Level meter, etc.) Please try to right click at empty area in I/O area of any bus in the console view, you should be able to see "Set as default bus". (Als Standardbus definieren)
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 17:11:42
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Ok I got it so far. I can see the busses now. I also could define ne the as default bus. Thanks to you for your patience with me. Still I do not get to hear most of the instruments, although I switched their OUT to the new Master bus (There are some sharing one bus for a shared Sound FX, though). Only the deafening double click.
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Mad_Musicologist
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 17:25:56
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scook (...) There is not enough information to discuss the result of adding the bus. Your posts lack any hardware or software specs.
Sorry. Cakewalk Sonar by Bandlab being the host application. Instruments are: Cakewalk TTS-1, Pianoteq 6, Aria player (Multi), the latter mostly being fed with samples. So I am routing all the various audio out channels to the Master bus, only those with an exclusive bus for shared fx are routed to their exclusive bus. Then the audio outs of those exclusive busses are being routed to the Master bus.
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 17:38:11
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Maybe I found my mistake. I cannot insert any FX in the masterbus? (If I delete my fx-chain from there, all sounds are there as expected. Do I insert it again, the click reappears, and the rest is silence.) Do I have to create a "pre-master bus" to use my mastering fx-chain?
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 17:43:27
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☄ Helpfulby Mad_Musicologist 2018/07/21 21:02:42
Except for the "Set as Default Bus" being enabled, the master is a bus like any other. Some use a bus before the master. Some add master FX in a different project. Adding a pre-master defeats reason for creating a bus with "Set as Default Bus" enabled. Having a pre-master or placing FX in the master is not the problem. Likely, it is the FX themselves or configuration settings that are the issue.
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Mad_Musicologist
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Re: Where is the MASTER track gone?
2018/07/21 21:11:43
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scook Except for the "Set as Default Bus" being enabled, the master is a bus like any other. Some use a bus before the master. Some add master FX in a different project. Adding a pre-master defeats reason for creating a bus with "Set as Default Bus" enabled. Having a pre-master or placing FX in the master is not the problem. Likely, it is the FX themselves or configuration settings that are the issue.
It is, alas, the wonderful LP equalizer, the dynamic eq that came with one of the last monthly updates during the Gibson era. It is strange that I can insert this fx in any audio out track, but not here, where I could need it most. I will check tomorrow if the other eq from lp has the same behaviour.*) The other fx I wish to use in my mastering fx chain workw: Fiedler audio stage. Meanwhile I will continue with the good old Cakewalk Multiband. If I don't exagerate with the overall loudness, it will do a good job. *) Yes, it's the same. And yes, the same happens with my "old" Sonar Professional installation. Plus some note dropouts: Some notes in melodies are missing. as if I had deleted, say, every b-flat and e-flat from the tune. But I didn't, They're muted.
post edited by Mad_Musicologist - 2018/07/22 19:28:39
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