Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn

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Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn

I have worked on the guitar this week. I know its still early, but I manage to play through without messing up too much in the melody.
 
I have played guitar since the mid 80s but this is my first of shredding. I really hope to get better and up to speed. For now I struggle with concentration, and not forgetting what to play. I cant even drink coffee, my doctor say. Its something with getting older and tummy gets irritated.
 
I play it here at 70 bpm, but original tempo is 120 bpm. I made the back track. Not the best, but better than just a click I think.
 
https://soundcloud.com/oy...inerie-5-ovelse-70-bpm

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/20 01:05:38 (permalink)
    loved this!  Good job!

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/20 14:21:55 (permalink)
    thanks

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/20 14:41:26 (permalink)
    The tone fits the music style really well. Didn't hear any mistakes at all. It'll sound even better once you get your speed up. Interesting piece.
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/20 20:15:18 (permalink)
    Thanks.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/23 11:06:43 (permalink)
    I did learn something. I don’t know if it’s of importance to you, but it is that it is important for me to not do all the vibrato and making it sound good for slow playing, because this gets a big hindrance when the tempo gets up there were you don’t have time for it. And I struggle to un learn all this.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/23 12:37:49 (permalink)
    Good job ... and no errors, I'm not a good player of guitar and I wonder how someone gets all those notes without making a mistake ! Thanks for the post and the piece ... a familiar classic

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/23 13:48:43 (permalink)
    Thanks. I am working on 80 bpm now.
     
    Fun thing that nag, well I observe is that people tend to think that Higher BPM is the same as faster. But in fact. There is discussion in the classic piano players about how to apply the bpm. If they are to count on the 4th or the 8ths. Or just the 2ths. if the tempo is allegro 160 BPM and you count the 8ths it will be half the speed of 160 BPM. likewise, if you count the beats at the 4ths the speed would be double. The argument is that they played the peace’s slower than we do now.
     
    Likewise, in Black Metal and blast beats they say go into 250 BPM. So, is the clock on every beat of the drums? If you have 125 BPM and count it double speed you will play it the same speed. But I guess saying a Black Metal tune in 125 BPM isn’t that cool.
     
    There is a lot Norwegian Psalms I have seen this phenomenon. The notation is really slow. But putting on a blast beat makes it as fast. Well fast enough to call it blast beat. And the speed is 100 BPM or below.
     
    But for the Badinerie.
    I think that 120 BPM is a little to fast for the melodic to shine through. But the movement is also just a joke for the Overture NO. 2. Just music that the musicians could goof the dancers with a undacable movement. So, I guess Bach didn’t think too much of the tempo. Just play it till the dancers beg you to start playing dances music again.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/24 10:05:45 (permalink)
    very cool. 
    Sometimes it's more difficult playing at a restrained tempo and you nailed this
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/24 10:14:10 (permalink)
    thanks

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/24 18:06:23 (permalink)
    here is really cool guys, talking about the tempo application phenomena.
     

    post edited by Jarsve - 2018/07/24 18:30:31

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/25 12:14:35 (permalink)
    Nice job on this Øyvind. 
     
    You could cheat and stretch it to 120bpm  

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/25 13:27:03 (permalink)
    Thanks.
     
    Yeah. I am into 80 BPM now. Didn't practice any yesterday. but will stay on 80 today i guess. Next step is 85 BPM.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/25 16:54:08 (permalink)
    Sounds very clean and spot-on! The tone works a treat and I bet Bach would have loved it. Him, and his 21 children.
     
    Actually, he would have organized the town elders and the Lutheran ministers and you would have been banished to live in the woods.
     
    When you get it faster, remember to add the machine gun double pedalling kick drum of apocalyptic destruction . . .
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/25 21:31:08 (permalink)
    It is not blast beats or really fast kick drums, but the first attempt of drum track was more of this kick oriented.
     
    J. S. Bach - Badinerie 6 (First Drums 120 BPM)
    https://soundcloud.com/oy...-6-final-drums-120-bpm
     
    J. S. Bach - Badinerie 6 (Final Drums 120 BPM)
    https://soundcloud.com/oy...-final-drums-120-bpm-1
    post edited by ØSkald - 2018/07/26 15:32:55

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/25 21:37:19 (permalink)
    if anyone is interested, here is the TABS!
     

    Bm 2/4
        f              2            3 p                4
    E||-7--10-7----7---|------------|------------------|----------------|
    B||---------7----7-|----7-------|------------------|----------------|
    G||----------------|-7----7-----|-----7----6---6---|---6-9-6--7-----|
    D||----------------|--------9---|---9---9----9---9-|-8-----------9--|
    A||----------------|------------|-9----------------|----------------|
    E||----------------|------------|------------------|----------------|
     
     f              6            7 p             8       tr
    -7--10-7----7---|------------|---------------|-7-----------|
    ---------7----7-|----7-------|---------------|-------------|
    ----------------|-7----7-----|-7-6-7__7-6-7--|----7--7--6--|
    ----------------|--------9---|---------------|-------------|
    ----------------|------------|---------------|-------------|
    ----------------|------------|---------------|-------------|
     
                  10        tr   11                 12
    ---------------|-10-----------|-----5-----------|-----7-------------|
    -7-6-7__7-6-7--|-----7--7--6--|---7---7-9-7-9-7-|-6-9---9-10-9-10-9-|
    ---------------|--------------|-6---------------|-------------------|
    ---------------|--------------|-----------------|-------------------|
    ---------------|--------------|-----------------|-------------------|
    ---------------|--------------|-----------------|-------------------|
     
                    14                 15                  16     tr
    ---5-------7-----|---9-------10-----|---10-9-7-9--------|-------------||
    -7---7_6_7---7_6_|_7---7_6_7----7_6_|_7----------10-9-7-|-10--9--7----||
    -----------------|------------------|-------------------|------------*||
    -----------------|------------------|-------------------|------------*||
    -----------------|------------------|-------------------|-------------||
    -----------------|------------------|-------------------|-------------||
     
        f            18           19 p          20
    ||--2--5-2----2---|------------|-------------|-5------------|
    ||---------2----2-|----2-------|-------5_4-7-|----8-7-8--5--|
    ||*---------------|-2----2-----|-5__4--------|--------------|
    ||*---------------|--------4---|-------------|--------------|
    ||----------------|------------|-------------|--------------|
    ||----------------|------------|-------------|--------------|
     
     f            22           23   p            24
    ----7----------|------------|-----------------|-----------------|
    -8----8-5--8-5-|----5-------|-----7---5---5---|---5-8-5-7-5-7-5-|
    ---------------|-6----6-----|---7---7---7---7-|-6---------------|
    ---------------|--------7___|_7---------------|-----------------|
    ---------------|------------|-----------------|-----------------|
    ---------------|------------|-----------------|-----------------|
     
                    26                27                28     tr
    -----------------|---5-------7-----|---7-5---5-------|-----------|
    ---7-------8-----|-----------------|-------8---7-5---|-7--5------|
    -7---7_6_7---7_6_|_7---7_6_7---7_6_|_7-------------7-|-------7---|
    -----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------|
    -----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------|
    -----------------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------|
     
                  30        tr   31              32       tr
    ---------------|-10-----------|---------------|-9-----------|
    -7-5-7__7-5-7--|-----7--7-----|---------------|-------------|
    ---------------|-----------9__|_9-7-9__9-7-9--|----9--9--7--|
    ---------------|--------------|---------------|-------------|
    ---------------|--------------|---------------|-------------|
    ---------------|--------------|---------------|-------------|
     
     f       sn    34    [32____]   35    [32____]       36         pm pm
    -7--10-7--------|----7-5---------|--------------------|---------------|
    ---------10_8___|_8------8-7-5___|_5--8-7-5-----5-8-5-|---------------|
    ----------------|----------------|----------7-5-------|-5_4-5_4-3-----|
    ----------------|----------------|--------------------|------------4--|
    ----------------|----------------|--------------------|---------------|
    ----------------|----------------|--------------------|---------------|
     
     p           38         p[32____]               40         sn
    --------------|------------------|---------7-----|----------------||
    ------------2-|-5--3-2-3-------5-|-7-----7----7--|-5--------------||
    -------4__3---|----------4-6-7---|---4-7---------|---7-6-7-6_4---*||
    -5__4---------|------------------|---------------|---------------*||
    --------------|------------------|---------------|----------------||
    --------------|------------------|---------------|----------------||
     
    1 = Number over the tabs is the bar number
    f = Forte
    p = Piano
    pm = Palm-mute
    sn = Slammer into note.
         Notie is outside the time grid.
         One 16th note into the real note.
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    x- = 1 "-" after a note number means a 16th note
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/07/26 15:43:15 (permalink)
    I'm really struggling practicing in the heat these days.
    The heat has been here for months.
    I don’t know if you think it is hot, but we Vikings are not used to this.
    One day or even a week is ok.
    But months without any real rain and cool days is too much for us.
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/01 21:59:49 (permalink)
    Here is in 80. I did not play through the hole part.
    Part One A/B is one take
    Part Two A/B is two takes. The high note at the end was messed up so i put in the last take on some of that bar.
    I know it's cheating, but better than nothing.
    https://soundcloud.com/oy...ach-badinerie-7-80-bpm

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/05 00:42:26 (permalink)
    Really enjoy this...I like my metal old school...could be a Yngwie track :)
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/05 15:38:34 (permalink)
    Now I'm wondering two things and they are :-
     
    1) worrying too much to get it right and putting your self under unneeded presh.
     
    2) Stringing us all along knowing you have the skill to do it !!
     
    I think it's number one ,,,ehhh, but I'm not sure, 'cause you are damn good ! !
     
    Anyway whatever! ... my very best wishes to ya
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/06 23:21:53 (permalink)
    SupaReels Music
    Now I'm wondering two things and they are :-
     
    1) worrying too much to get it right and putting your self under unneeded presh.
     
    2) Stringing us all along knowing you have the skill to do it !!
     
    I think it's number one ,,,ehhh, but I'm not sure, 'cause you are damn good ! !
     
    Anyway whatever! ... my very best wishes to ya
     
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    It depends really.
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/06 23:22:44 (permalink)
    Cookie Jarvis
    Really enjoy this...I like my metal old school...could be a Yngwie track :)
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/07 10:01:27 (permalink)
    It's no wonder your hot! ( Something a little less formal may help for the gardening I think mate  )
     
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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/07 13:10:44 (permalink)
    SupaReels Music
    It's no wonder your hot! ( Something a little less formal may help for the gardening I think mate  )
     
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    That is stupendesly hot. The gambeson is like a thick winter jaclet. And under the helmet ther is a padded protection too. I dont understand why they didt want to fight wars in the winter months back in the middleages. They only fought in summer, and the temperature was hotter back then.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/08 01:24:07 (permalink)
    You did good - I dig it.

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/08 16:52:23 (permalink)
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    You did good - I dig it.


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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/09 04:45:21 (permalink)
    Sounds like Bach! Nice job. 
    I have trouble shredding as well. It doesn't really have to be very fast IMO. Just the fact that you learned the whole piece is an accomplishment in itself. Good music sounds good slower as well as fast. 

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    Re: Badinerie of Bach finally starts toget inn 2018/08/09 06:27:22 (permalink)
    gtrpastor
    Sounds like Bach! Nice job. 
    I have trouble shredding as well. It doesn't really have to be very fast IMO. Just the fact that you learned the whole piece is an accomplishment in itself. Good music sounds good slower as well as fast. 


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    Yeah. But i want to get up to 120 bpm like it should be.

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