bluebeat1313
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Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
Hi everyone. Noob question here.
I got many Cakewalk projects that I want to normalize, volume wise.
I have done them through many years on different hardware etc. I am not looking for something like "mastering" them all, as it would take insane amount of time, but at least to get them more or less "normalized" if this is a correct word.
Assuming I rendered (mixdown) them to stereo WAV files (1 song per file) and now I have a folder of WAV files. What do I do next? I would prefer a simple & brutal method to average them down (or up) to something equally the same and average to what music is usually mixed to in volume.
Can somebody please describe a way to accomplish that?
I thank you in advance.
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msmcleod
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/11 18:39:09
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The only way I've found to batch process a folder of WAV files is with SoundForge.
I use this when creating my own sample libraries.
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bluebeat1313
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/11 18:58:06
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msmcleod, thank you. Unfortunately, I had extremely bad experience with Magix. I do not want to touch their stuff. I do not mind doing file by file. It is just that I am not too familiar how it is usually done.... in Cakewalk. My idea was uploading them bulk (10 songs or so) in one project and solo single file... Do the "normalizing?" mixdown to file, solo next repeat steps. The "normalizing" part I am a bit confused by. Is it done through Process-Apply effect-Normalize and then "normalize to maximum peak value".... Or through some sort of compressor with saved values at a Master Bus and then mixdown... or by some other means.
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/11 19:03:09
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While I too would use SoundForge, there is a batch processor in Wavosaur. I think it would be much easier to use a program setup for batch processing than loading up files in a DAW but others may see it differently. BTW, Wavosaur is free.
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bluebeat1313
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/11 19:12:59
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Scook,
Thank you! Worked like grandma on cookies!
So I assume, normalize to 0 dB would be something standard?
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joakes
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/11 22:16:23
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You can batch normalise in Goldwave, which is what is use.
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bluebeat1313
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/12 13:15:51
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joakes, thanks, Goldwave is a paid thing ($50) Scook's recomendation of Wavosaour is free and it does batch normalization. Prog has some nice batch commands / features. I wish it would also have batch "remove silence" from beginning and end. It has batch "add silence", but not remove.
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/12 23:27:23
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bluebeat1313
Scook,
Thank you! Worked like grandma on cookies!
So I assume, normalize to 0 dB would be something standard?
I would not "normalize" them to 0 dB. This would put the largest value, or peak, at 0 dB. This is the maximum value that can be represented in the digital domain. However, because of the way signals are represented this actually might represent an analog value that is higher then 0 dB. This is called an inter-sample peak. In addition to this, normalizing doesn't actually tell you how loud the audio will be perceived only what the largest peak is. If you want a quick ball park way of getting your songs at about the same loudness then i would suggest importing them into your daw, inserting a limiter on each song and then adjusting each song until it has an RMS, LUFS, or some other average value that is roughly the same for each song at its loudest part.
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/13 00:47:35
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Another point about 0 dB. If you go from Wav to mp3, you'll get overs. You need -.2 or .3.
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/14 03:12:53
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Cakewalk can normalize all wave files in a project with one command. Select all the audio tracks that you want to have normalized and Choose Process > Apply Effect > Normalize from the menu.
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/14 05:47:11
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John
Cakewalk can normalize all wave files in a project with one command. Select all the audio tracks that you want to have normalized and Choose Process > Apply Effect > Normalize from the menu.
Furthermore...you can drag them all in from a folder, and after normalized as John describes, drag them back into a "normalized" folder.
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bluebeat1313
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Re: Normalizing Project / Waves in Cakewalk
2018/08/15 20:27:07
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Super forum! Thank you all! I should have joined years ago. I feel a bit like a school dropout kid that came to class after years of wondering :)
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