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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 15:49:30
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Looks like you posted as I was creating my post.  £159 to update from K11 (regular Komplete).
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 16:01:54
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I've been sitting on K9U, waiting for Kontakt 6. About frickin' time.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 17:04:59
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$399 to update from KU 8 - 11 to KU 12
Seems like a good price. Does anybody think the price will be better or is it best to grab it now?
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 18:47:47
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They will put the upgrades on sale but it might not happen for about a year.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 18:56:54
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Looking at Komplete 11 Ultimate. It was announced start of Aug 2016. Shipped start of Sept 2016. Upgrade price from Ultimate 10 was $399. That next summer, June 2017 they offered it for $199.50 in their Summer Of Sound sale. So about 10 months from announce date, 9 months from ship.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 19:24:36
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I wish they would change how they market Komplete Ultimate, I mean, NI adds a few new libraries to Komplete and markets is as if you're getting a whole new package.
I would rather simply buy the new stuff separately if I want it. Why market stuff to me I already have?
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 19:40:17
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As always, I will be waiting for the first true discount price. They suffer delusions of grandeur every new release...
Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of what I see there, I wouldn't go lower than the collectors edition now. But... wow, that's a steep price for me, with so much invested in older versions over the years. I've skipped other versions before though to save more too.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/06 20:13:55
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I'm holding off as well. Kontakt 6 and Massive X are bound to be completely bug-ridden at first which will make working far more difficult so I will at least wait till it's considered stable before I hop in. I'm really not all that impressed with what I see so far anyway. No GUI update on Kontakt, nothing to make the user end better, no freaking scaling because Bitmaps. >_<
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 00:18:00
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I still haven't fully explored K11U. I'll happily wait for bug fixes and sales.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 10:49:08
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While I like Massive I rarely use it and I am not too excited by the update.
As for Kontakt 6 the tipping point will be when 3rd Party library developers start using the new features of Kontakt 6 and someone puts out a killer library using the wavetable or something.
Three new reverbs seem a little underwhelming given the options most of us have outside of Kontakt. Hosting 3rd Party effects in Kontakt would have been an instant purchase feature, as would direct integration with the S Series keyboards without using the Komplete Kontrol wrapper.
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msorrels
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 11:43:45
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If it works anything like Reaktor 6, you will be able to run Player libraries in Kontakt 6 Player even if you haven't upgraded to the full Kontakt 6 yet (and keep your full Kontakt 5). So the pressure to upgrade won't be as bad, since most of the ground breaking library releases that will require Kontakt 6 will (most likely) also be player libraries. Should be able to keep you from being completely locked out of new libraries until the first sale.
Honestly Kontakt 6 seems kind of underwhelming, even from a developer standpoint. I already punted on the full Orchestra when it last went on sale (I got the full strings a while back, but I've not been very happy with them). If it wasn't for Kontakt 6 I'd say this is one of the Ultimate upgrades I'd skip.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 12:12:59
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I agree with Glyn, Kontakt 6 won't be a "must have" until it is required by a new library you want. The downside, of course, is that many library developers must lock their releases (even updates to existing libraries) to the current version of Kontakt. It is part of the licensing mechanism that NI uses. This is only for player-compatible or NKS-ready libraries though.
I bought K11U just last November and only installed it a few months ago. I probably will skip this one until I either need K6 or K13U.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 13:02:15
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From what I can see Kontakt 6 is more a continuation of the incremental updates that have happened in 5 rather than a jump forward. A bit like Waves 10.
If I did not have it already the Rickenbacker bass would be the most tempting of the new content. Not sure about the rest.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 14:32:50
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The last Kontakt upgrade I jumped on immediately was from 2 to 3. I learned my lesson after that. Every revision since has been purchased with reluctance, and each time I felt coerced into it. I will resist this one for as long as possible, but they'll get me in the end. They always do.
Next year NI will offer a $99 deal to sweep up us laggards. By then some must-have registered library from the likes of Spitfire will have come along to justify that upgrade.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 15:32:38
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Glyn Barnes
While I like Massive I rarely use it and I am not too excited by the update.
As for Kontakt 6 the tipping point will be when 3rd Party library developers start using the new features of Kontakt 6 and someone puts out a killer library using the wavetable or something.
Three new reverbs seem a little underwhelming given the options most of us have outside of Kontakt. Hosting 3rd Party effects in Kontakt would have been an instant purchase feature, as would direct integration with the S Series keyboards without using the Komplete Kontrol wrapper.
Glyn is right on, on this. Especially on the reverbs.
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Magic Russ
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/07 17:57:00
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I doubt they will do VST hosting for many reasons.
I was surprised that they didn't include the mod pack effects in K6. Since they seem to be moving towards synthesis with the new wavetable feature, it would make sense to include modes from their new CHORAL effect that emulate a Roland chorus and ARP ensemble.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/08 06:44:46
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I have K10U. Guess will wait till next summer to upgrade when there's a sale. Always skip one upgrade and wait for the next sale to get the best value for your money.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/08 16:08:48
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Looks like Komplete 11 is off of the NI site now. You have to purchase it or gets upgrades from a 3rd party vendor.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/15 00:13:29
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I went with full boat Ultimate Collectors Edition. 600 bones (upgrading from Ultimate 10) but I should be good to go until Kontakt 7 comes out.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/15 00:40:01
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Seems Time+Space have a good upgrade price going.
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Re: Komplete 12 Announcement
2018/09/15 06:33:24
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I got mine at Sweetwater 6 months no interest.
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