chrisw63
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MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
This may be a basic question - I'm trying to get from a MIDI file to an MP3 - I recorded out to a tape deck, then played the tape back into my sound card (line input), recording into a Home Studio audio file. The sound was distorted.
What do you suggest? Was the output from the tape deck too loud? (rerecord at lower levels?) My soundcard is a Realtec something or other. I set the sampling rate at 44.1 KHZ, but there are also 11 and 22 settings. The sample size is set at 16 bits.
Thanks alot!!!!
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daveny5
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 11:49:48
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Why are you doing that when you can just Edit-Bounce to Track? I'm assuming you're using softsynths.
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chrisw63
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 20:03:47
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I am using external synths via USB port.
post edited by chrisw63 - 2005/05/25 20:09:57
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 21:38:40
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Why are you recording to a tape deck?
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daveny5
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 22:16:44
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So then why not record the output from the instruments directly to the inputs on your soundcard?
Tape??? I haven't recorded to a tape in 10 years. I haven't even played a tape (and I have hundreds of cassettes) in about that long.) Get with it!
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chrisw63
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 22:19:02
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I thought I needed to get the audio to convert it to mp3- the sound is generated by the synth modules externally - unless I could run that back into the soundcard and record at the same time, I thought that might be a drag on resources.
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chrisw63
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/25 22:29:43
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ORIGINAL: daveny5
So then why not record the output from the instruments directly to the inputs on your soundcard?
Cakewalk is running the instruments -would I record on some other program simultaneously? Or could I record while playing in Home Studio? Sorry to be so dense.
post edited by chrisw63 - 2005/05/25 22:32:07
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/26 02:21:39
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I assume the hardware synth is a keyboard right?, find the audio output jack on the keyboard and plug it into the line in on the sound card open a new audio track and arm it hit record and HS will play the midi out to the synth, then the synth will send it back to the audio track, and you have an audio mix down, you can also send it one track at a time to get separate audio tracks for each instrument, then delete the midi and resave with a different name, that will preserve the original midi file, and give you an audio only file, process and master to taste and serve up in any form you want
Go to the net and download audacity it is a free open source wave file editor, and use it to convert the files to anything you want.
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/26 02:56:32
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ORIGINAL: chrisw63
This may be a basic question - I'm trying to get from a MIDI file to an MP3 - I recorded out to a tape deck, then played the tape back into my sound card (line input), recording into a Home Studio audio file. The sound was distorted.
What do you suggest? Was the output from the tape deck too loud? (rerecord at lower levels?) My soundcard is a Realtec something or other. I set the sampling rate at 44.1 KHZ, but there are also 11 and 22 settings. The sample size is set at 16 bits.
Thanks alot!!!!
First of all, why do you want to convert MIDI to MP3? Secondly, why are you using a tape device with HS unless you are syncing previously recorded material with overdubs or video? Finally, what exactly do you really want to do & have you any clues as to how to begin doing it? Cakewalk is a complete recording system. You don't need tape. It's also fairly easy to use if you have a basic knowledge of DAW systems & computer audio. Ditch the "Realtek something or another" and get a real soundcard. P.S. I noted that you joined this forum in January of last year, yet you've only posted 7 times and your current post is about a basic function of Cakewalk...??? Have you spent any time working with the software or digging through the help files? Please pardon me if this response seems "harsh"...It's nearly 2 in the morning & I've been going since a little after 9 yesterday morning--BUT, some of these "newbie" posts about fundamental functions of DAW programs are really getting to me. Many of us here would really like to help solve serious problems that new users encounter, but I, for one, don't feel the need to provide the basic step-by-step instructions that are already defined in the help files. Apologies & Regards, Papa
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daveny5
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/26 12:41:13
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Yes, you can record and playback at the same time.
Take the TUTORIALS!
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/27 01:40:05
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ORIGINAL: daveny5
Yes, you can record and playback at the same time.
Take the TUTORIALS!
Why didn't I think of saying that?  Papa
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daveny5
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RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2005/05/27 08:51:12
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I've had more practice at this than you. 
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Re: RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2010/07/27 07:59:11
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Hi guys, I've just registered and would like to ask a question along similar lines...
I usually play along to midi back tracks and find that carrying a computer and sound module (SC33) around with me becomes a hassle. I have since purchased an apple ipod and recorded my midi tracks to an audio track on Sonar and then saved the files to my ipod in both WAV and MP3 format. I find the playback quality of the ipod to be nowhere near that of my sound module. In fact, when i record the midi to an audio track and play it back from the computer i also get a remarkable reduction in quality. I have been under the impression that you will be able to playback the same quality that goes in?? Hope this make sense, any help will be appreciated!
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Re: RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2010/07/27 08:32:28
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I'm not sure about the ipod playing back at the same quality as what went in, but playing back from the computer should be the same quality as long as you are using a quality soundcard. what kind of quality reduction are you talking about?
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Re: RE: MIDI to MP3 - Help! distortion problems
2010/07/27 08:47:39
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Welcome to the forum.
Firstly: You wrote to a FIVE years old thread.
Secondly:The normal forum procedure is to start a thread of your own for your question. Jumping in to other peoples threads is called Hijacking, but in this case I'm sure the OP (Original Poster) doesn't mind :o)
Unfortunately I fail to get the exact picture of what you're doing.
You record midi-backing tracks through a sound module to your iPod in wav-form, and then play the backing track from the iPod when you perform? Amplified by what?
I'm not familiar with iPods so I don't know what kind of outputs they have. Are you recording real time audio from the iPod to PC, or is the signal digital?
If you are using the PCs integrated soundchip, that's one weak link in the chain as well.
"In fact, when i record the midi to an audio track and play it back from the computer i also get a remarkable reduction in quality."
Does that mean you record the audio output of your sound module, or that a soft synth is producing the sound? You do know that midi can't be recorded on an audio track, right? That's why I want to make things clear.
Please try to describe a bit more clearly what you're trying to accomplish.
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