ASIO Drivers

Do ASIO drivers ship with the installation CD/ driver files of the hardware you buy...or are ASIO drivers a third party driver that ships with no soundcard/ hardware, and are only drivers that you can download yourself to go with your soundcard?

eg. I bought a Presonus Firebox, and have read that using ASIO drivers are preferable...but the drivers on my installation CD indicate nothing about ASIO...

so is the only way to get ASIO drivers to dl them? ARE they 100% generic and fit all soundcards, or are ASIO drivers split up into categories that suit (for eg.) Creative, Tascam, Presonus etc

thanks

ORIGINAL: montezuma

Do ASIO drivers ship with the installation CD/ driver files of the hardware you buy...or are ASIO drivers a third party driver that ships with no soundcard/ hardware, and are only drivers that you can download yourself to go with your soundcard?

eg. I bought a Presonus Firebox, and have read that using ASIO drivers are preferable...but the drivers on my installation CD indicate nothing about ASIO...

so is the only way to get ASIO drivers to dl them? ARE they 100% generic and fit all soundcards, or are ASIO drivers split up into categories that suit (for eg.) Creative, Tascam, Presonus etc

thanks

No they are not generic, they must come from Presonus for that card. In fact they should alread be installed. How are you testing to see if they are there ?

Well, I installed the Presonus Firebox installation cd, went into my software and could not spot any ASIO drivers. In fact, in windows sound/ drivers I see the Firebox listed, and my old sblive (which is still plugged in) and I don't see any ASIO drivers. The mixer for the Firebox only has the sliders and output selections. There are no menus where I can select drivers.

Interesting....
I just bought a Firebox last weekend. I would not work in TDM, and it was scratchy in MME. I did not try ASIO. I thought ASIO was strictly a Digidesign thing.

ASIO is not Digidesign.. worse.. Steinberg, they invented and develope it.

I did not know that.
Thanks.

I guess I would do well to read the FireBox instruction manual. It probably has a great many details about which driver to use.

Also TDM is a Digidesign protocal for plug ins.............................JDW

No just set it in the ASIO hardware panel. You should be good to go...............................JDW

I wonder why my firebox would work at all when Sonar was set to MME driver?
It was scratchy and studdering, but it made sound.

ORIGINAL: OffAnAirplane

No just set it in the ASIO hardware panel. You should be good to go...............................JDW

Thanks.
Do I do bit and sample rate the same way, or do I need to adjust them in Sonar?

If it works like the Firepod you have to set the default in Sonar to what you have the sample rate set for in the Presonus control panel.

Unlike almost all other cards that just change to the sample rate the host application sends automatically, the Presonus developers don't seem to know how to do that trick. So they make you set the sample rate in their little control panel every time you need to change it. What's worse is that Sonar will "test" the card to see if it can do the "default sample rate for new projects" every time you start Sonar. So if you don't set the default in Sonar first, close Sonar and set the card using the Presonus control panel, then restart Sonar it will fail and lock up. It's a pain in the @ and I'm glad I don't own one anymore. I got a Lynx card and now it just works no matter what sample rate Sonar throws at it, just like it should.

Keep in mind that if you always work at the same sample rate you will only have to do this once, so it would be no big deal in that case. But in my case I have a need to use Sonar at different sample rates all the time to work on my older projects and to work on projects for others. This is the exact reason I sold my Firepod. This was about 6 months ago and they STILL have not fixed or even updated their Firepod drivers (that are already a year old). I'm going to win a bet on this one.

Sounds like your computer. What kind of specs does it have?

Also TDM is a Digidesign protocal for plug ins.............................JDW

My bad, I meant WDM.
But I though RTAS was Digidesign plug-in protocol.




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Sounds like maybe spyware, if you say so, because those specs are not too bad I don't think

I'm gonna completely format and overwrite the main OS hard drive. Then reinstall everything and tweak it, before I decide whether or not the firebox is to blame.

But I though RTAS was Digidesign plug-in protocol.

Both are. I think one of them is mac.Don't qoute me on that as I am not a PT type of guy....................JDW

Well I got my Hewlitt Packard recovery disks in the mail yesterday (there were ten of them by the way). There is so much crap that is loaded on those HP's from the factory. It took longer to uninstall all the junk than it did to restore the computer. lol

Anyway, it seems to be running a lot faster now. But I found a deal on a new HP that I'm gonna get so I'm not even gonna bother with this one any further.
The new one is a 3.2Ghz P4 / 1GB of 400mhz DDRRAM / 250GB 7200RPM HD / 800Mhz FSB. I think it will work a lot better with Sonar than my current PC.

Normally I would agree with you, but to build the PC I want to build it would cost about $2k even if I build it myself. I can't afford that right now, so I'm gonna go with the HP.
I'm using an older HP now and it works ok, so I'm not too worried about it.

ps. A little while ago I brought the Firebox back to GC and exchanged for an M-Audio Audiophile 192. It works waaaay better. It doesn't have preamps, but thats no biggie.