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    wogg
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/06 07:53:01 (permalink)
    Probably...

    If your motivatied enough you cold check out the language in the EULA for the software you're sharing.

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    jeffers_mz
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/06 07:53:08 (permalink)
    It's up to each individual software author. If you downloaded a plugin off the web for free, odds are the author has released it into the public domain, though not always. If you paid for it, then trading it with a friend will probably violate the license you agreed to on installation. The usual practice is to allow a single copy to be made for archival processes, and the software to be used on one computer by one user.
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    LoopJunkie
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/06 07:55:32 (permalink)
    If it's not copyright infringement, it's against the End User License Agreement (EULA) - this is very much depending on local jurisdiction, which is different everywhere, e.g. parts of Sonar's EULA are illegal in most countries.

    But it doesn't sound right ....

    loop

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    crash_3210
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/06 08:19:11 (permalink)
    well my country would be Egypt and i don't know if that is illegal or not ???
    i have a copy or Reason 3.0 and some guy i know wants me to give him a copy in exchange for some loops and samples
    what should i do ?
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    johndale
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/06 08:41:06 (permalink)
    When in Egypt, I would not worry about it.................JDW
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    crash_3210
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/07 08:33:19 (permalink)
    exactly why is that ??? is it because they'll never gonna catch me ????
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    WhyBe
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/07 08:54:44 (permalink)
    If you will still be using the software installed on your computer (after you have given the discs away) then definitely it's piracy. Is that what you are doing?

    I wish folks would just pay for software or just use freeware instead of coming up with 1001 excuses for stealing it.
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    crash_3210
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/11 16:59:20 (permalink)
    plaese don't make me start BEGGING
    i use music completely as a hobby
    your 1$ = 6 L.E. (Egyptian Pound)
    that would make most of VSTi's about 200x6=1200 L.E. EACH
    plus SONAR = 700x6= 4200 L.E.
    plus Hardware (can not be stolen ofcourse !!!)

    that would make BEG IN THE STREETS to be able to play and compose some decent Music ( I Study Medicine BTW)

    on a second Opnion, : Even Begging won't get me that much money

    SO I AM NOT MAKING AN EXCUSE

    YOU : WORK : GET MONEY : PAY THE COMPANY THAT CAUSED YOU TO GET MONEY BY USING ITS SOFTWARE !!!!
    SIMPLE ISN'T IT ?
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    dmbpettit
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/11 18:09:41 (permalink)
    Here in colorado $1 = $1. And a Corvette costs about $50K. Since I am a student I can't afford that but I have to get around some how and I cannot beg on the street for that much money so I think I will just steal it from the dealership.
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    Sonic
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/11 18:42:43 (permalink)
    Do whatcha gotta do, dude. But if you feel funny about it, something ain't sittin' right. Know what I mean?

    The best is always yet to come. Now...shut up and make some noise!
    A small sample of my music... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/turtlebend2.htm
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    jmeredith
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/11 18:53:29 (permalink)
    Does your brain prevent you from understanding the difference between right and wrong?
    Does your conscience think it's okay to steal if you're not going to get caught?

    If you can't afford to support your hobby in a legal manner... get a new one.

    If you expect the people of this forum, who pay for their software, to condone your behavior - you are in the wrong forum.

    I would like to have a copy of EWQL Symphonic Choirs but I don't - why not you ask? Because I can't afford it right now so I'm going to wait for a sale, group buy, or until I have that much extra cash - novel concept I know but you and your friends might want to try it.
    post edited by jmeredith - 2005/06/11 18:56:40
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    yep
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/11 19:29:01 (permalink)
    You can get so much power for so little money these days, that I bet you make better records by just not even paying attention to what you can't afford. If you have Sonar and a decent sound card, then you have more power and better effects than most studios had even a few years ago. If you can't make good records with what you got, then your plugins aren't the problem.

    Cheers.
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    Graham
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 11:30:37 (permalink)
    Crash

    Why not drop Propellerheads an e-mail and ask them what they think you should do?

    Bet I know the answer

    Graham

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    mozzla
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 12:23:14 (permalink)
    Just to add my little bit - if I want lend a guitar to a mate, then I'll take it off the wall, put it in it's case, lend it to the mate. Then, when I get it back, I'll take it out it's case and put it back on the wall for when I next play it. Now , I presume that this is OK with software instruments ? As long as you uninstall the VST from your PC, put the CD's back in the box, give them to your mate, and then he installs the VST etc. After he has used the VST, then he must uninstall it, give you back the CD's and you must then re-install.
    This seems long-winded but straight forward to me - but I bet it's not possible with a lot of software instruments ( when it should be ).
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    agreatheight
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 12:30:24 (permalink)
    Isn't the important question is it ethical? You can do all kinds of illegal stuff and never get caught, but does not getting caught make it right? Of course not.

    I teach bass lessons and my students will bring in ripped CDs full of music they didn't pay for. When I ask them if it's OK, they say sure. Then I tell them when then do their first demo I'm gonna copy and give it away on the net for free and they get pissed.

    If you are going to use software (not try it) pay for it. Software takes lots of money and time to make, don't screw them.

    Off my soapbox, enjoy your day...

    wish i was ocean size, no one moves you no one even tries...

    Eric Hartmann
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    SteveJL
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 12:57:39 (permalink)
    Dr. Joe Eddy

    You're an educated guy.....you don't need others to answer this.

    If you feel a lump in your butt, perhaps it's your conscience trying to tell you something.

    If you can ignore the lump and learn to walk funny, then you are free to do anything you want.....literally.

     
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    daveny5
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 13:03:00 (permalink)
    Its ILLEGAL no matter what country you are in. Don't do it.


    Dave
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    daveny5
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    RE: Do COPYRIGHTS Prevent Me From Doing This ? 2005/06/12 13:06:23 (permalink)
    No. In most cases, you don't own the software. You only own a license to use it. That license is for you and you alone.

    If you'd read the damn EULA you'd know that, but you don't want to read it because you know its going to tell you that its illegal. When you installed the software, you signed a legal document that said you read and agreed to abide by the EULA, so if you get caught, you have no defense. If you didn't accept it, you could not have installed the software.
    post edited by daveny5 - 2005/06/12 13:09:09

    Dave
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