sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help

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2005/06/09 04:04:07 (permalink)

sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help

So pissed. I use a dell 9300 laptop inspiron 1.6 gig 512 ram 60 gig harddrive spins at 7200. I also use a firewire m-audio 410.

I just got an m-audio usb keystation 61es... I then installed sonik synth 2, got it work for about 2 minutes and now my computer keeps crashing and also wont let me record at 24 bit anymore. Or even record at all.


Please help I have no more energy been up all night and I am just spent.
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    harmony gardens
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 04:24:30 (permalink)
    Wow,,, I'm not sure exactly what would cause this. SS2 works great here. I would probably try uninstalling and reinstalling it, or perhaps doing a system restore. I'm not a computer expert though. Just a thought. Good luck.
    post edited by harmony gardens - 2005/06/09 04:26:18
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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:10:35 (permalink)
    um do I not have enough ram for this program or is processor too slow? Anyone?
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:20:47 (permalink)
    You are at a bare minium to run SS. I would re-install, and if no luck call IK.....................JDW
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    Phrauge
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:22:07 (permalink)
    You should go to Sonik Synth's site and go to their support page as this has nothing to do with Sonar.
    post edited by Phrauge - 2005/06/09 10:23:48
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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:30:33 (permalink)
    phrauge yes it does have something to do with Sonar because there are some setting as far buffer size and why Sonar is throwing my tracks to 16 bit. When all my software is 24 bit.

    Phrauge de par du I want people with sonar and sonik synth 2 to give me some advice. Maybe someone with a similar system.
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:41:24 (permalink)
    uninstall both of your new installations.
    see how the computer runs after that.
    then install one only (i rec. the midi interface).
    play with it and make sure all is running fine.
    make sure you can record 24bit, too. if not, try uninstalling/reinstalling your drivers for the soundcard.
    once everything is fine, set a system restore point.
    then install Sonik Synth.
    i have SS working fine, but it def. puts a strain on my system.
    if everything goes to hell after SS install, then you know exactly where the problem lies... and you can roll back to the restore point.
    post edited by The Scar - 2005/06/09 10:43:55

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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:47:36 (permalink)
    The Scar thanks alot for a good answer finally. I will try that. I had already reinstalled soundcard drivers. So If I do everything you said and it turns out to be that sonik synth is just too much for my system should I buy another gig of ram. Its kinda crazy because this is a brand new laptop from dell.
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:55:09 (permalink)
    I have a 64 bit Athlon Desktop with a gig of RAM, and Sonar sessions with SS take noticably longer to load up than any other sessions -- others pop open almost instantly... SS sessions take a good 30 seconds. Lord knows why. Best of luck.

    BTW: SS also has PACE copyright protection which some on these forums rail against... it could be causing the problems for you.

    If after doing everything over you're still having crashes/problems, I'd search the forums for PACE threads. (I've never had a problem with it myself, but others consider it a virus.)

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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 10:56:34 (permalink)
    Its kinda crazy because this is a brand new laptop from dell.


    Does it really matter if it is a DELL ? not really..
    Dell has many kinds of desktops/laptops ..a different series (HIGHER priced) would have those better specs (praise and glory to Dell.. ;)

    Much fun with ours to natural resound! <G>
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 11:02:36 (permalink)
    you are right . I will see if I can return this crap.
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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 11:14:22 (permalink)
    its a 1.6 pentium M which is supposed to be as fast as a 2.0
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    BillW
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 11:17:14 (permalink)
    BTW: SS also has PACE copyright protection which some on these forums rail against... it could be causing the problems for you.


    Where did you get that information?
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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 11:18:34 (permalink)
    The Scar

    I hope I just need to add some ram. Mayby another gig? Or should I return this laptop? today is the last day I can return it. But is supposed to be a very fast processor pentium M

    post edited by Blerf - 2005/06/09 11:20:45
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    BillW
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 12:04:27 (permalink)
    In case my last post wasn't clear, there is no PACE in the SS2 software.
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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 12:27:34 (permalink)
    I have a feeling loading all the presets at once is killing the system. i just want to be able to grab synth sounds quick but I may need more ram for that?

    Also what do you guys set your buffer size to in audio options in sonar? My system now records at 48000 24 bit again it just plays old songs at 16 bit.


    Thanks for all the responses
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 12:28:05 (permalink)
    My bad. I thought all the IK multimedia stuff was PACE'd.

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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/09 19:54:03 (permalink)
    SS sessions take a good 30 seconds. Lord knows why.


    There is a setting that you can choose so that Sonic Synth does not "scan upon startup" for all the sounds. It speeds it up quite a bit. Similar concept applies to Sampletank. I think its a simple checkbox in the preferences.

    Hope that helps.
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    harmony gardens
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/10 03:24:45 (permalink)
    I have a feeling loading all the presets at once is killing the system. i just want to be able to grab synth sounds quick but I may need more ram for that?


    You might want to think about going with more memory. Squids usually recommends a Gig of memory. SS does not have disk streaming and loads all the samples into memory, which is starting to like like where the problem lies. I didn't mention this in my first post, because I didn't think that had much to do with your original problem. It sounded like you had something that had effected the whole system. More memory won't make things load faster, only a faster processor can really do that, but it will allow you to load more sounds at once in your project. Turning off the scan at start up will definately make it load faster and is a tweak you could do. You really only need to rescan when you create a new child preset, and it can be done only when needed.

    Another thing you could do is load one instance of SS for each instrument, and then freeze each instance. This will make your projects load faster, and will definately stetch your resources, but freezing and unfreezing, then refreezing takes time, too. Just curious, how many instruments were you loading at once when it was crashing?

    Obviously, the faster the computer, and more memory you have, the better things will run, but to state that seems almost like an insult,,,, FWIW, I'm running a P4 2.8 with a Gig of Ram. HTH
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/10 11:31:53 (permalink)
    Uninstalled all the programs that came with the computer even IE..... reinstalled soundcard drivers and sonar 3 buffers set to 512 4800 24 bit and I am having no problems at all. I will reinstall sonik synth 2 later today. Thanks for all the help guys . I really appreciate it. I havent used the vst plugins yet as i am happy I have this working good again. i guess there is an option to use dxi or vst but vst sounds better and eats up more ram.
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/10 12:00:53 (permalink)
    i guess there is an option to use dxi or vst but vst sounds better and eats up more ram.


    How much? 20 - 40%?

    loop

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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/10 13:14:49 (permalink)
    There is a setting that you can choose so that Sonic Synth does not "scan upon startup" for all the sounds. It speeds it up quite a bit. Similar concept applies to Sampletank. I think its a simple checkbox in the preferences.

    Hope that helps.
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 10:11:10 (permalink)
    Well new version of windows XP without the SP2 and everything is working smoking fast all sonik synth plugins are Fast 24 bit amazing stuff very happy A special thanks to The Scar for not being understanding and saying stuff like "GO to a different forum this question has nothing to do with Sonar"


    So the moral of the story is always install a fresh version of windows without SP2 if you can on a factory computer. My sonik synth loads faster than **** my computer works great and thats all folks. Until my next dramatic encounter .Take care
    post edited by Blerf - 2005/06/11 10:15:01
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 12:14:56 (permalink)
    A special thanks to The Scar for not being understanding and saying stuff like "GO to a different forum this question has nothing to do with Sonar"


    The reason I suggested you go to the Sonik Synth website is that in your initial post all you stated was that Sonik Synth crashed your DAW. No mention of using it with Sonar. Sonik Synth is made by IK Multimedia. IK Multimedia requires registration of their product before you can get tech support or post on their forums. Recently, we've had a rash of people asking how to operate third-party plugins, for serial numbers and even copies of the full version of Waves Platinum plugs. Now, I'm not suggesting that you're using a cracked copy of SS but I am suggesting that the best place to ask questions about a third-party product is at that product's website.
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 13:02:21 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Phrauge

    A special thanks to The Scar for not being understanding and saying stuff like "GO to a different forum this question has nothing to do with Sonar"


    The reason I suggested you go to the Sonik Synth website is that in your initial post all you stated was that Sonik Synth crashed your DAW. No mention of using it with Sonar. Sonik Synth is made by IK Multimedia. IK Multimedia requires registration of their product before you can get tech support or post on their forums. Recently, we've had a rash of people asking how to operate third-party plugins, for serial numbers and even copies of the full version of Waves Platinum plugs. Now, I'm not suggesting that you're using a cracked copy of SS but I am suggesting that the best place to ask questions about a third-party product is at that product's website.


    I actually bought this at West La Music and did receive a call from Ikmedia after I left a message. There are so many things that can cause problems when recording music. I wanted to speak with people also running saonar and Sonik Synth together. I think the best advice for anyone buying a new computer is to wipe the drive clean and reformat and start from there. I have also found that SP2 causes alot of problems so dont use that if you dont have to. I guess I was just upset at the time and your name Phrauge and your avatar made you look like a frenchman who hates americans. Sorry about that.



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    harmony gardens
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 13:14:40 (permalink)
    So Blerf, is everything working ok now??
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 13:15:46 (permalink)
    I guess I was just upset at the time and your name Phrauge and your avatar made you look like a frenchman who hates americans.




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    Blerf
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    RE: sonik synth 2 jacked my computer please help 2005/06/11 13:27:29 (permalink)
    Everthing is smoking fast just trying to learn some stuff about the programs.


    p.s listening to queens of the stone age. With all the money to make a record and the lead singer over uses the gain for vovals on the whold record. I could get that sound 50 pre-amp.

    Also if you guys want to hear some stuff I produced and co-wrote with my guitar player have fun . I am the fruity looking singer http://www.brandnamecollision.com
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