Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems

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2005/06/15 10:59:20 (permalink)

Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems

Hi,
I just upgraded to P5 v2 and have a couple of questions:
1. My Lexicon Pantheon Reverb (from Sonar4PE) doesn’t work under P5v2. All other effects do work! Am I missing something?
2. I have a Delta44 soundcard and use a buffer setting of 64 on the card. Under Sonar4 I use a buffer setting of 256 and a latency of 5.8 ms. (WDM driver) This appears to be the sweet spot for my system to run Sonar4PE. When using P5v2, however, the setting of 64 is somehow taken over by the program and doesn’t yield good performance. I have to up the latency to at least 20 msec to cure it (and lower the high CPU usage). How do you guys do this? Is there an ini file in which I can place a hard buffer setting? I don’t want to switch the buffer setting on the Delta44 when I have to use P5v2. In fact I want to rewire it under Sonar.
Thanks for any replies, by the way Dimension is stunning!!!
Helmut
post edited by helmut - 2005/06/15 11:25:33

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    ZuN
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 11:15:59 (permalink)
    Hi Helmut,
    The answer to your first question is Pantheon will only work with Sonar, its something thats implemented into Pantheon.

    Ill have to let someone answer your 2nd question since i don't own a Delta 44.
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    helmut
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 11:24:52 (permalink)
    Thanks ZuN, I was allready afraid of that. too bad.
    Helmut
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    roesli
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 12:46:30 (permalink)
    You can always run P5 as a rewire in Sonar then patch the output to an aux bus, then
    insert the Lexicon on the aux bus.

    John R
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    xylyx
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 12:56:11 (permalink)
    I wonder if there is something contractual about why the Pantheon Verb is locked solely to Sonar; there must be I assume, as the Sonitus FX work well with P5 (except the stupid incorrect BPM detection of the Delay plugin). If there isn't any contractual reason for it, then it would be nice if it were allowed to work in P5 too, as it is nice to have the extra choice, especially for those like me who dislike the Rewire protocol...
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 19:00:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: xylyx

    I wonder if there is something contractual about why the Pantheon Verb is locked solely to Sonar; there must be I assume, as the Sonitus FX work well with P5 (except the stupid incorrect BPM detection of the Delay plugin). If there isn't any contractual reason for it, then it would be nice if it were allowed to work in P5 too, as it is nice to have the extra choice, especially for those like me who dislike the Rewire protocol...


    It is a bit odd. Someone on the Sonar forum managed to use the Lexicon Reverb in Soundforge. There did not appear to be any hack involved either. This was many months ago. The Studioverb is still pretty good, although it would be nice to have more choice.
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    b rock
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 19:27:46 (permalink)
    Whoa. That's an interesting thought on using the Lexicon in SF; I'll have to try that. It was my understanding than the Pantheon was inextricably tied to whatever application that it was bundled with. Sonar3 and S4 Pro Edition users received this brief explanation (rather, a statement), which applies to both the stereo and the surround versions. The same thing is true for the Pantheon bundled with the Omega card [read here: about mid-page]. Installed with Pro Tools / works only in Pro Tools.

    It does seem a bit odd on one level to prevent its use in P5, but as it's a featured part of S3/S4, that sheds new light on the choice. Besides, Lexicon keeps the the distribution limited because ... well, because it's Lexicon. For anyone who might have missed this, check out Craig Anderton's take on programming the Pantheon in this SOS article.
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    cmusicmaker
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 19:57:17 (permalink)
    I found the thread with Scott Quillins comments on Soundforge. I started the thread back in April last year!

    Scroll down for Scotts comments. He even posted a screen grab but I don't think it's still accessible.

    http://www.cakewalk.com/forum/tm.asp?m=103494&mpage=1&key=&anchor#103494

    rponcher apparently ran the Lexicon in HS2002!

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=174335&mpage=1&key=Lexicon%2Csoundforge𪤶
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    MurderDethKill
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 20:30:21 (permalink)
    Funny, I can't get Pantheon to work in anything but Sonar. I have Sound Forge 7 and it's no go...(failed to patch in). I wonder what I'm doing wrong...
    That's alright tho, as i actually have gotten quite use to using the sonitus 'verb and actually seem to like it better.
    Would be nice if maybe Cake could get the license for it (Pantheon) in P5 ver.2.5 (along with Surround..)!!!
    Am i greedy...Damn rite!!!

    My site i guess;)
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    rponcher
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/15 21:56:18 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: cmusicmaker

    rponcher apparently ran the Lexicon in HS2002!

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=174335&mpage=1&key=Lexicon%2Csoundforge𪤶

    That is correct. Of course, the two programs shared the same engine, so it shouldn't be as surprising as getting it to run in Sound Forge.
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/16 22:31:14 (permalink)
    My Lexicon Pantheon Reverb (from Sonar4PE) doesn’t work under P5v2

    I think this is restricted by design. Lexicon wants you to upgrade to a full version that will work in all applications, not just Sonar. I think this is a reasonable thing, as long as it is documented as such when you purchase Sonar, and I believe it was. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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    RE: Lexicon Pantheon Reverb and other P5v2 problems 2005/06/16 22:42:57 (permalink)
    You are correct.
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