Sonar crashes with 2 Opcode 128's

Help!
I just reverted back to my pair of Opcode Studio 128X MIDI interfaces after my main USB unit bit the dust. Not wanting to spend more money, I found the Gibson driver for the 128's and XP.

But here's the problem:
With one interface installed (Com2) in Gibson's "Studio X Configuration" everything works perfectly fine. But if I add a second unit (Com3) and launch Sonar, it crashes with the Gibson driver, xtc2000.dll.

Anyone know how to network more than one of these with Sonar 4 that actually works without crashing?

Thanks in advance,
Thomas

Sonar Crashed ?

Now thats one I've never heard.

ORIGINAL: djwayne

Thank You !!!!! For your post. I didn't know there was a XP driver update available for my old Opcode Studio64 XTC !!!!

did you find one that allows you to access the SMPTE port? I'm still bummed I cannot access these with the drivers I found on Gibson's site....

Here's a link to the driver I downloaded... It has to be installed manually, and is a bit tricky, but after some trial and error, I was able to install the Studio 64 XTC.

http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=121455


Years ago, this was a $ 499 interface.......it's been sitting around collecting dust for many years......I also have a Studio 4 but that only will work with old MACs (I still have my old LCIII)........so I had two great interfaces that wouldn't work with XP until today !!!

So now I have to re-setup my sound modules & keyboard to work with the XTC, yea !!!

What's also cool is that the XTC is wired by a 9 pin serial port, which leaves my other two midi in's & out's off my soundcards also available in Sonar......

Actually, I can access 4 seperate midi units with 16 channels on each one, for a total of 66 midi channels, plus 16 off the 1010LT card, and another 16 off the 2496 card, for a grand total of 98 seperate output channels....

I think that'll be enough.......

That's not counting the synths in the program........

Driver guide only took a few minutes to get signed up with them....the real pain was installing it, as the installation instructions aren't accurate. However I was able to get it installed, and it's working great.

I'm just thankful an updated driver was available at all, after years of no updates ...............

I wired my sound modules up to the XTC last night, and all the channels are working just as they should. I was able to access each one individualy from Sonar Home Studio 4XL....this rocks !!!

Fodermesteren:
There is only one driver that will work with XP & related OSes, as mentioned by djwayne, at Driverguide.com. The setup was manual, so be sure to follow the installation instructions.

Everyone:
The driver is from Gibson, is the only one they claim will ever be written, & at that was put out in 2002. Has anyone yet come up with an idea on using two Opcode's? I can use one just fine in Sonar, but two makes it crash. I connected one to the port on the motherboard & one to an addon PCI card, & then tried both on the PCI card. No luck. Maybe something to do with sharing the driver between the two? The driver finds any multiples you have installed, & lists them on different Com ports. This worked fine from the Gibson driver standpoint, but not with Sonar. Think the driver can be installed twice without the second install just replacing the first one? I would really like to use the second 128x, but for now I can only use one.

As for the SMPTE features, I don't know either if they work, but I also noticed the Control Port, and Broadcast Port djwayne mentioned. Anyone know what those are, & more importantly, how to use them? I guess the Control Port is related to their software control panel, which, unfortunately, will not work in XP.

Thanks again,
Tom

Tom, thanks again for the extra information.

Regarding your problem, I would think that there's no way for two to work as there isn't a way for the computer to identify which one is which, by that I mean, interface #1 vrs interface #2. So I would say sell off one of the old interfaces and get a new one that runs off a USB port, at least then you have a chance and distinquishing between the two, this would give you the extra midi ports you need or want.....I think, not guaranteed, but that's what my guess is, you'd have to try it to see if it'll work.

Thanks again for the info, I'm thrilled that my XTC is now working with Sonar !!!!!!!!

Dyrnwyn is correct. In order to have two, each device needs a unique ID, something that wasn't incorporated into the original desgn concept.

As for my rig, I've got one port on my mobo, two from my STA 2000 and all the available ports on the 64. Way more I/O than devices to use them for.

I also wish however that the new driver setup contained the same patching matrix that the original one had. That was a very nice software routing interface.

I had the same concerns about latency, so I did a simple recording test with just a couple tracks to a drum machine track....I had no noticable latency problems.

As a matted of fact, I got into Sonar's sync options and was able to start the recording and drum machine at the same time, from Sonar, and got a nice clean start off the drum machine onto the recording. There was a very slight delay on the start, that showed up on the wave form, but still very usable. The drum machine is connected thru the midi ports of the 2496 card, not the XTC.
So that cures my "Wait For Note" addiction.

The way I have my system configured is this....

1010LT>Roland JP-8000 (Synth & Midi controller)

2496>Yamaha RY-30 Drum Machine

Studio 64 XTC

Channel 1A> Proteus 1, Channel 1B> Proteus 2

Channel 2A>Emu's Vintage Keys, 2B>empty

Channel 3>Roland JV-1080 with a Sessions expansion board.

Channel 4>Roland JV-880

Sooo basically, I'm just using the outputs of the XTC to sound modules. And the sound cards for inputs from midi controllers.

Regarding the control port and broadcast port, I did a brief run thru on the XTC's owner's manual and found no mention of either. So it must be something exclusive to the new driver.

The manual also states that you CAN run a second XTC, but you must indicate to the computer about the second driver install...BUT it doesn't say how to do that. Typical Opcode.