How to remove Reverb from a vocal track??

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2005/07/05 08:33:47 (permalink)

How to remove Reverb from a vocal track??

Hi all,

I applied reverb to a vocal track and through the headphones it was perfect. (My mistake, I should have mixed through the speakers, but I'm a newbie) I unfortunately saved the project, and now when I mix to speakers I don't like it at all. Is there any way to "undo" and remove the reverb so I can start over? I really like the vocal take and would hope to be able to save it. Thanks for any suggestions.
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    daveny5
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 08:54:47 (permalink)
    Nope. Re-do. Next time, clone the track before you destructively edit it.

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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 09:17:14 (permalink)
    One trick that works when you applied the reverb to the track (destructive editing): Use a stereo widener fx and set the "wide" control to a low value (mono). You will note that the more "mono" the signal, the less reverb is perceived. HTH...John
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 09:36:32 (permalink)
    A nice trick, but I'll agree with Dave up there- redo if possible. Also, why did you *apply* the 'verb? I generally set up a reverb bus and insert a send on whatever tracks need it, and I always use it sparingly...
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 11:35:28 (permalink)
    It's almost as easy as putting toothpaste back in the tube.

    You can try playing with a gate and adjusting the threashold... that might reduce it some and make it less pronounced, but it won't get it all out.
    post edited by mlockett - 2005/07/05 11:48:24
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 11:38:35 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bmogo

    Hi all,

    I applied reverb to a vocal track and through the headphones it was perfect. (My mistake, I should have mixed through the speakers, but I'm a newbie) I unfortunately saved the project, and now when I mix to speakers I don't like it at all. Is there any way to "undo" and remove the reverb so I can start over? I really like the vocal take and would hope to be able to save it. Thanks for any suggestions.


    Define "applied" reverb. What did you do ? You can't "apply" reverb to a recording in Sonar or any other plugin for that matter. Did you use a hardware reverb during recording ? Did you bounce with reverb and then delete the take ?
    post edited by ohhey - 2005/07/05 11:43:33
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 19:21:03 (permalink)
    I agree with davidchristopher's reply. Redo and in future set up a reverb bus to apply reverb. Don't ever destructively edit any track if you can avoid it.
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 19:51:11 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: mlockett

    It's almost as easy as putting toothpaste back in the tube.

    You can try playing with a gate and adjusting the threashold... that might reduce it some and make it less pronounced, but it won't get it all out.

    This little trick works better if you reverse the audio first, so the gate is opening after the reverb tail. Then reverse the audio again. Voila! No reverb tail! But, both of these suggestions leave reverb in the middle of the words (or whatever).

    Regards,
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    BTW, I have used this to help partially remove echo from spoken word recordings done in terrible environments.
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    RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2005/07/05 20:31:06 (permalink)
    This little trick works better if you reverse the audio first, so the gate is opening after the reverb tail. Then reverse the audio again. Voila! No reverb tail! But, both of these suggestions leave reverb in the middle of the words (or whatever).


    Excellent tip. I don't know if it will work but the theory looks like it will.

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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/11 21:47:20 (permalink)
    What doe it mean  to destructively edit. I've got the same issue as described in the the original post. Not knowing any better, I  added ProChannel's reverb to a vocal solo track thinking that when I turned ProChannel off it would be gonzo! However, it appears that whenever one Bounces to Clip or Bounces to Track track earlier versions of the "take"  are forever gone! Is that right?  It is certainly destructive!!!  Is that considered destructive editing?

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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/11 21:57:36 (permalink)
    Old thread alert: this thread is over 9 years old.
     
    Adding an effect plug-in to a track is nondestructive. Applying the effect by bouncing the track is destructive.
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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/11 23:36:06 (permalink)
    Conrad, please check the audio folder for the project you are working with. Bouncing a clip/track applies effects to the audio and creates a new clip ("destructive"); however, SONAR does not delete the original audio wave file that was created. Most likely you still have that audio file (which is also why I manually save prior to destructive edits).
     
    There are a couple things to try... Try adding a new audio track to the project, then right click and "Import audio"... drill into the Audio subfolder and look for the track number/name of the wav file you inadvertently bounced... these are numbered sequentially in (), so pick one with a lower number. Also, with project saves, you should be able to open an earlier version of the project.

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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/12 00:29:12 (permalink)
    If you have $399 and aren't adverse to using plug-ins that seem more like magic, there's Zynaptiq's Unveil. It's pretty amazing in terms of nuking reverb.
     
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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/12 16:53:22 (permalink)
    SPL deverb works to a point, ymmv depending on the material you are working on. I have used it to take some "room" off dodgy vocal and acoustic guitar recordings before but you gotta be careful not to overdo it or everything starts sounding nasty.
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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/12 18:57:39 (permalink)
    iZotope RX also has a reverb removal feature. And there's DeVerberate from Acon Digital.
     
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    Re: RE: How to remove Reverb from a vocal track?? 2014/10/12 19:10:24 (permalink)
    edit descructively, live on the edge. use the effect bin next time or add it to a bus. ;-)

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