Re-wire to Sonar (re-visited) over the hurdle!

For me personally it buys me Awesome Mixing flexibility,

You can have individual rewired Tracks in Sonar, I prefer to Freeze or bounce them down when mixing.

I have just started finding uses for "rewire". I too first thought that I would never have any use for rewire, but now I'm doing it more all the time. It Allows me to use P5's easy synth setup and pattern loop explorer.

As a bonus I can use the great arppegiator in P5.

Want an example?

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best of both worlds.

Rewiring Project5 Version 2 into SONAR gives you a couple of things:

One is that you get SONAR"s more flexibile mixing environment. This can be helpful in mixing your P5 track mainly due to the fact that you have the console view and you have SONAR"S bus architecture which allows for insane routing options. If you are recording multiple tracks at once then SONAR"s multitrack capabilities are essential and then you also have SONAR"s more powerful crossfade and track comping capabilities. This is why I personally Rewire Project5 into SONAR.

There are also more benefits depending on what you are doing. Rewiring allows you to mix Project5 tracks to picture, and also mix in full surround. There's also the POWr dither (Producer Edition) which is not present in Project5.

I think the benefits from the Project5 side of things are obvious

As far as how to do it:

First set you number of Rewire outputs that you want to utilize in Project5. I generally pick 16-24, but you can choose up to 64. Open Project5 in SONAR like it's an instrument from the DXi rack (picking it out of the "Rewire" column). Each track coming from Project5 is assigned to an output (i.e. "Synth 3 L/R"). These outputs will show up as inputs in SONAR, available to be patched into any audio track. You connect it to a track in SONAR as if it were a physical input. Imagine that Project5 is a big 64 output "hardware" synth workstation, and you are plugging those outputs directly into SONAR's mixing console...quite a dream come true as I'm thinking about it


P.S. Remember you can also drag audio recordings from SONAR tracks into Project5 for use in the Groove Matrix for increased creative flexibility.

I really hope Cake adds some really flexible routing abilities within P5. However, maybe they won't, so that there is more incentive to add Sonar to your P5 setup. I hope that's not the case.

OK so I was able to set my p5 setting to route upto 32 tracks to Sonar inputs. But when I am in SOnar, the track I am selecting as an input doesnt play. The only reason I hear anything is because it is coming across the AUX and Master inputs from p5, but if I try and sollo a track I cant. Also there isnt any visible track in sonar to work on. I thought maybe I should record to each P5 track in sonar but there isnt a record button on P5 rewired tracks. What am I doing wrong? I will post on Sonar in case this isnt the place.

thanks for any responses though and for the ones here.
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I thought maybe I should record

look in sonar help 'bounce to tracks' this will create audio tracks from the rewired p5 tracks and you can begin mix down in sonar. i usually get rid of the rewired p5 after i have bounced all the tracks to audio. also if you look in p5 after rewiring, the synth tracks will have a new number associated with them in brackets [1] these are an aid to help you identify synths with multiple outs when binding to audio tracks in sonar. lets say if the first synth you have in p5 has 5 multiple outs (i think velocity has 5) but you are only using the first one. the first binding to an audio track in sonar you would choose synth 1. the next synth in p5 you would bind to the next audio track in sonar would be synth 6 and if you look in p5 you will see a [6] on the second synth.

There should be a how-to-rewire-P5-to-Sonar tutorial in the P5 Wiki. I think I wrote one.

Ah yes. There's two articles here. http://p5.sonarama.com/p5/index.php/Software_List

I read the tutorial and I thought it was well written, however there coud be a little more clarity when it comes to the bouncing part of rewiring from P5 to Sonar.

Also, when bouncing rewire tracks, remember to select the region you want in the time ruler (click and drag from the end).

I believe that you should specify that the person is clicking and dragging the time ruler in Sonar and not trying to perform this in P5. The reason I say this, is because one can look in Sonar and see that there isn't Audio data in the tracks that have been created from the rewiring, however if you look on the P5 side you will see the data filled tracks which instinctively makes you want to click and drag on the music that you know is indeed present to click on.

In other words, an individual can say, "If there isn't anything present in sonar, then why and how can I click and drag across the time ruler bar?


I hope this helps,

Peace

over the hurdle. The problem was that I wasnt selecting the time line. It really isnt intuitive but when I grappled with James D's post I picked it up. Thanks!

once you get there it is wonderful. it is a hard thing to describe apparently 'bounce to tracks' as i could not understand cake's explanation at all. i just kept at it many moons ago and voilà the interaction of all life somehow lead me there. congrats crabtwins.