crabtwins
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Rewire or freeze to Sonar: Topic Change
I selected all. But when I open SOnar and re-wire p5 it inserts a whole bunch, of tracks in some fashion thats very counterintuitive (for me) and many have nothing(content/audio) on them and I they dont obviously correspond to the p5 track from which they came to me. I think this is how it is for now but curious how many others have selected. Better yet I usually dont have more than 6-10 tracks at this stage, how many should I choose? Ballpark people  . Not looking for a one solution answer. I have another question but its going up on its own. TIA
post edited by crabtwins - 2005/08/25 12:20:40
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b rock
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/22 23:51:56
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Ballpark people 5 as a default number [four aux and main out]; bump it as I need it. Average: 12. CT, you might be interested in a neat end-around for that track-numbering scheme. I copped it here a long time ago; I think that it was Aggie or AndyC. When the dialog box pops up after you've started the Rewire process in Sonar, deselect all the checkboxes and conclude the process. Then when you insert a new audio track, just choose the inputs that you want, including the Rewired outputs from Project5.
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crabtwins
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/22 23:58:41
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I have to print that cause for some reason I cant concentrate on the secret you told. I cant read because i just had some vegetables. WHere is that cafesito con leche?
As of now I will use 12 til I figure the second way around. Was the "end-around" what you say in your last Sentences or I have to search for it? Just asking I think you gave me enough thanks!
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b rock
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/23 00:10:39
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Was the "end-around" what you say in your last Sentences or I have to search for it? Nope, that's it. Try it out. Just don't create any tracks [First Outputs or All Outputs] when presented with the popup, and load up the Rewired outputs as an input into a newly created Sonar track [Insert Audio Track].
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 06:01:45
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B-Rock has totally set you down the right path here CT. For what it's worth, I actually use about 12 as well (unless I'm rewiring more than just P5v2).
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2005/08/24 06:10:23
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wrench45us
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 08:08:21
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when i was trying to do this and had some success I used the agincourt method and sent over 5 plus as many P5 tracks as I had on the project -- immediately bounced those tracks to audio and discarded the aux and master out -- ready for mixing on individual tracks
however, given P5's ability to freeze tracks and one's own ability to snatch them from a folder and bring them into Sonar, that particular Rewire function is no longer necessary.
hope thaty doesn't confuse the issue
i guess it depends most what you want to do -- just mix or work up tracks within Sonar
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xylyx
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 12:22:01
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Well it's known that I don't like rewire...however, I decided to give it another try last night with P5 (previously never tried it with P5) and it was enough to reaffirm my negative feelings. Despite only wiring in 12 tracks (not all used) and the cpu meter in Sonar showing only 45%, it was a total stutter fest...Squarepusher would have been proud  Anyway, guess I'll have to keep hoping for a mixer and aux busses to be added to P5...
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rabeach
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 16:04:15
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i guess you have already tried reducing the number of available rewire ch's in p5/audio.
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xylyx
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 17:16:17
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No I didn't, purely because most of the stuff I do has at least 8 tracks and as the 4 auxs have to be factored in, 12 would be the minimum I would need...if it doesn't work with 12 then it will never work for my needs. I even had the latency set high at 180ms...might try a lower setting and see if that helps.
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rabeach
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/24 20:34:35
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i think the default in p5 is 64 so that could be where your overhead is going if you have not changed it from the default. guess i didn't word the post very well.
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xylyx
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/25 02:35:05
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No, I did set the number of outputs to 12 before trying to rewire to Sonar...
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crabtwins
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/25 12:14:15
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I like wrench's idea. sounds like its more up my alley. Also now I am wondering why the need to rewire? Anyway. thanks for the input guys/gals?.
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James D
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RE: How many typical rewire outputs 4 you?
2005/08/25 15:14:05
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Usually, I rewire with P5 set to provide me with 20 rewre tracks. You have to compensate for all of the outs that come from using the soft synths. for every instance of deminsion used, or Velocity or what ever plugin that has an out, or several outs. plus the defaulf 4 aux tracks that will appear. I read on the Project5 Wiki how to rewire with Sonar and P5 and it worked well for me. I take into account the what plug-ins I am using and the factor them into the number of tracks that I will need rewired. Now I know that twenty is enough as a standard, and I just delete the empty ones. Peace. 
post edited by James D - 2005/08/25 15:22:13
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