GreenStang511
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Who's the GROOVE clip master?
Okay folks, I need some help here. My level of frustration is through the roof. After thinking that I had this groove clip thing figured out, I realized I don't. What is the magic here to create a groove clip? I make sure I get the time sig right. I make sure I get the measure length right. No matter what I do, when coverting to a groove clip, GTP3 always wants to make it twice as long. If it is 2 measures, it is now 4. In the process of doing this, the sound gets all warbled. If you go into the groove clip properties and change to correct number of beats, it sounds like crap. UGH! What is the deal here? Oh, I've researched this group and the Sonar group and everyone more or less says what I already knew. Lots of people have this problem. I thank whomever many times in advance if you can please set me on the correct path!
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/01 20:48:28
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Okay after further trial and error with this, I realize that if I record in GTP3 and then take whatever I need for a clip and covert it, it works fine. Project tempo and beats are correct. The problem is when I import from a .wav that I've created from another source.
For instance, I recorded some keys into the sound blaster wave studio with the sound fonts that sound blaster has. I played a 2 measure piece with an actual metranome set at 80bpm. Why then when I import this wave does GTP3 then think it is at a tempo of 160bpm? This is the cause of my woes because it then alters the sound when I set it at the right tempo and length.
HELP>>>>I'd like to be able to use other sources in my recordings.
Thanks again.
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montezuma
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/01 22:03:12
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Sweet, it's all double Dutch to me!
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/01 23:27:17
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 11:07:27
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Sorry man!
I'd help if I could, but I've never encountered this problem.
Might be worth a call to Cakewalk.
Good luck.
Regards,
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steve_B
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 11:21:25
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Could be a sample rate issue. Make sure the sample rate you've set in GT matches the sample rate for the wave you recorded elsewhere.
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 11:50:15
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I'll try that. It's weird...only happens when importing audio, otherwise I'm fine if I am only working with GTP3
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 13:35:23
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in my last project i imported two 24 bit drum loops, with no problems except Tempo, which, at a slower bpm, made them sound stuttery. when I adjusted the tempo to a faster rate, they were fine.
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 13:44:25
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I have no problem with the clips from another source if I want to use them AS IMPORTED. The problem only lies in when I try to convert it to a groove clip. I guess there is always cut and past if I want to use something. What is strange is that no matter what I do, GTP3 always things the clips are recorded at 160bpm and when I change the tempo of the clip after it has been coverted to a groove clip, the stuttering does occure and make the clip unusable.
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/02 18:15:45
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I wonder if you loaded them into your audio editor, and saved them as a wave file there, if that would change the character, and allow you to adjust tempo then? I'd say save them as a 16/44 .wave, or Aiff. Just try stuff, that's what i usually do!  I'm grasping at straws here, I gotta drive 45 miles to a gig, or i'd try some things. Tomorrow, if you don't solve this before! I hope you do!
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/04 13:43:51
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Well, I hope you are having better luck than me. No matter what I do, even changing the loop to 16/44 didn't help. Stumped! Sorry Dude, I've e-mailed Cakewalk support with your question.
post edited by mewsician2 - 2005/12/04 14:00:45
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/04 15:54:22
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Hey thanks for emailing Cakewalk. Let me know what they say. They won't help me 'cause my copy apparently is not legit.
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/05 19:17:56
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Not Legit!!!!!!!!  Sorry! No more help from me then! Gotta be legit baby!  Here's Cake's reply: ____________________________________ http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Email/ Hello Stephen, The Beats in Clip setting is the most important. This is calculated by the number of transients detected. Try halving or doubling the beats in clip to attain the correct tempo. Here are some great tips for working with Loops... http://www.cakewalk.com/tips/default-Loops.asp
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/06 13:50:20
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Was that helpful????? 
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GreenStang511
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/06 14:27:33
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Thanks again but not really. Their documents just say the same thing. Bascially, I cannot avoid that warbly/stuttering sound if I change the beats in the clip. It would have been nice to use but copy and past is fine too since GTP gives you a paste dialog where you can specify how many times you want what is on the clip board to paste. This is just as quick as stretching a groove clip. To Add, I don't get that warbly sound if what it thinks the clips tempo is matches the projects tempo. I also, at least, learned what Apply Trimming and Bounce to Clips does. Using either one of these give you a better chance of the groove clip conversion but still not that magical solution I was trying to find.
post edited by GreenStang511 - 2005/12/06 14:45:12
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mewsician2
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RE: Who's the GROOVE clip master?
2005/12/07 17:37:39
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I found this in another post. Could this help you? In the Edit view (View-Edit), find the Snap button and Right-click it to open the Snap to Grid dialog box. In the Resolution field, make sure Measure is selected.
post edited by mewsician2 - 2005/12/07 17:38:40
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