spinlock_1977
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Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
Anyone having troubles with Snap-To-Grid in Sonar 5 PE? Seems to work ok in Piano Roll view, but doesn't work for in-line midi editing in Track View. I've messed with all the snap settings - they seem to have no effect - I can place a note anywhere - no snapping takes palce. "N" makes the pretty light go on and off, but has no other effect.
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 13:21:27
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check the snap setting in track view.
note there are now 2 tabs.
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 20:52:05
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Thanks xackley, I checked 'em all, played with them all, tried every combination on both tabs.... no snap.
Are you running S5 pe? No troubles with snap?
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 21:05:00
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ORIGINAL: spinlock_1977
Are you running S5 pe? Yes. 5.0.1. ORIGINAL: spinlock
No troubles with snap?
Yes. No troubles.
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 21:22:06
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I'm stumped. Please help me with the basics, in case I'm missing something really silly. First, the Snap-To-Grid button looks like an X's and O'x game cross-hatch, and it's located in the upper left area of the screen, directly above the track title strips. Yes?
The little "v" give me the options for snap, and I select the "PRV Mode" tab, and select "Musical Time", "Whole Note", and "Move To". And actually I set both the Clips and the PRV Mode tab to these settings, just for this test.
I put the MIDI track in question into PRV Mode, then start dragging notes around. I get no snap - I can drag a note to any time position and it stays there.
Help??
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 21:32:28
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Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE here either. In my case I can't get audio clips to snap to markers or clip bounderies. I emailed Cakewalk about this bug and they emailed me back confirming that it is a bug.
Joe
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 21:33:45
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Thank you thank you jiffypop - thought I had lost my mind!!
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sinc
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/12 23:33:08
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I've definitely been noticing a problem with snap in PRV. They frequently don't go in at the requested snap setting.
The problem seems to relate to the fact that, when placing notes in PRV, holding down the mouse button acts as a "snap override", that lets you place the note anywhere. So, if you have your snap set to "Move To" and "Musical Time - Quarter note", notes should only go in on even quarter notes, such as at 1:01:000, 1:02:000, 1:03:000, etc. But by holding down the mouse button when placing a note, you can place a note anywhere you want. Simply press the button, drag the note to the spot you want, and then release the button. Snap settings are ignored.
This "snap override" seems to be triggered by moving the mouse while the button is down. So, when placing notes in PRV, you must be VERY CAREFUL not to move the mouse while placing the note, or the note will go in somewhere arbitrary.
This "snap override" feature might actually be a good idea, if it weren't so sensitive. Unfortunately, it is EXTREMELY EASY to place notes in the wrong spot. The snap override happens immediately, as soon as ANY mouse movement is detected. So even clicking and releasing the mouse button very quickly is not guaranteed to place the note correctly. The slightest horizontal mouse movement while placing the note, no matter how miniscule or brief, will trigger the "snap override" and cause the note to appear in the wrong spot.
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 00:36:33
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ORIGINAL: spinlock_1977
Thank you thank you jiffypop - thought I had lost my mind!!
I was thinking the same thing! "Is it me, or is something funky with the snapping?" I'm gonna investigate further later...now that I know it isn't just me!
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 12:39:22
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ORIGINAL: jiffypop
Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE here either. In my case I can't get audio clips to snap to markers or clip bounderies. I emailed Cakewalk about this bug and they emailed me back confirming that it is a bug.
Joe
Rather strange but I've got figured it out - in the snap to dialog, if it says "1" above the musical time values, this will make it lose snapping. Select this to "measure", confirm that it works, then go back to snap to clips or whatever and its working again.
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 13:30:16
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Thanks for the try, but that doesn't work for me. It doesn't matter if I select "measure", or quarter note, or whatever... I Get No Snap.
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 14:26:01
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Weird... How far are you zoomed in?
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 14:31:27
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Instead of dragging the event/s to their destination have you tried right clicking note properties and setting the value in the dialog box? I know it is more time consuming yet might be an effective way to position the event/s to where you want them until that "bug?" is taken care of.
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 18:24:01
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I have about 8 bars of the song visible in the Track View, which, on my monitors, results in a whole note being about a physical inch long.
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 18:25:52
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Thanks for the suggestion dx. Another work-around is to use the Piano Roll view - snap works ok there.
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sinc
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 20:14:48
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Another work-around is to use the Piano Roll view - snap works ok there. Actually, it doesn't work quite right there, either (as I detailed in the earlier post)...
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spinlock_1977
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/13 23:52:51
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I didn't realize that! Got a pointer to the previous post please?
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sinc
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 01:49:19
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Post #8 this thread.
post edited by sinc - 2005/12/14 01:51:03
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 03:02:33
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AFAIK,
snap to grid works in "magnetic" fashion (it's explained in the manual and also in the online help, just search for magnetic),
that is, it does not only snap to grid settings.
The really missing thing is that you cannot set the "magnetic" sensitivity and strength of the snap to your leasure.
Bye
P.S. Anyway I agree in the fact that snap to grid should give more feel of a grid being active...
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 07:59:39
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Unfortunately the position of a given post within a thread changes as other folks reply to existing messages in the thread. A more precise way of pointing to a post would be to provide a url in the form of http://forum.cakewalk.com/.... You can easily create one of this links by right-clicking on a link to the post you want to reference, selecting "Copy Link Location" (or similar, depending on which browser you use), and pasting that into the post you are creating. Regardless, I think I found the post you are referring to. Thank you.
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sinc
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 08:11:46
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Unfortunately the position of a given post within a thread changes as other folks reply to existing messages in the thread. A more precise way of pointing to a post would be to provide a url in the form  No, posts do NOT move. But that's beside the point. If you can't find my first post in this thread, you're on your own. Giving a hyperlink to a post in the current thread is absolutely ridiculous. Or have I been asleep? Is it April 1 and I didn't notice? 
post edited by sinc - 2005/12/14 08:13:36
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 08:23:36
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Hi spinLock- Unfortunately the position of a given post within a thread changes as other folks reply to existing messages in the thread. It can look this way if you're viewing the thread in "Tree" style, but you can see the actual chronological order in "Flat" style if you want. You can change the viewing style in the upper right of your browser under "Logged in as:...". -Susan
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sinc
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RE: Snap-To-Grid ain't Snappin' in S5 PE
2005/12/14 08:26:23
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It can look this way if you're viewing the thread in "Tree" style, but you can see the actual chronological order in "Flat" style if you want. Ah! Tree view. I guess I am asleep... 
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