Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!!

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2005/12/13 23:37:21 (permalink)

Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!!

hi,
Sometimes for various known and unknown reasons Sonar hangs or crashes and you have no choices but shut it down and launch it again...
Unfortunately you can't start a new sonar session as the " SONARPDR.EXE " is still listed in the processes list and it is impossible to kill it, at this point i know no choice but have a sit and wait or to reboot.

I've found a workaround (which might be dumb) but it's the only one i know :
When Sonar 5 hangs, i close all sonar related error msg and windows then i launch Sonar 4, then i just close it and magicaly, no more sonar process stucked... A new Sonar 5 session can now be started.
Unfortunately, that doesn't work all the time

So here's the question :
Would someone know a way to murder quickly that " SONARPDR.EXE " thus we can avoid waiting for ages and/or having to reboot ?

Tia.
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    Phrauge
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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/13 23:41:06 (permalink)
    Ctrl+Alt+Del then end process SONARPDR.EXE.
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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/13 23:46:28 (permalink)
    If you can't end the "SONARPDR.EXE" process in the Task Manager, you probably have a MIDI loop or lockup somewhere. When Sonar crashes, I frequently end up with a MIDI loop (lockup, driver issue....whatever you want to call it). The Sonar MIDI activity indicator usually stays in the Windows Tray also. It doesn't disappear until you restart Sonar and shut it down properly.

    At any rate....the solution: Unplug ALL of your MIDI devices from your PC. I know...that can be a pain; but sometimes it is still faster than waiting for the the Sonar process to end on its own.
    post edited by Infinite5ths - 2005/12/13 23:48:33

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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/13 23:48:56 (permalink)
    I had this problem as well. But it only occured when Sonar locked up when chasing SMPTE. This was the most annoying bug I've ever dealt with Sonar. It was there from the introduction of 3 and wasn't fixed until 4.03 I havent had any of these problems with either version of 5.

    Sorry about yours. I hope you fix it. If you do please post the solution here.

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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/13 23:50:32 (permalink)
    Right this works. It turn out that my midi contoller is adjacent to my work area, I reach over turn it off, relaunch Sonar, exit Sonar turn the midi controller back on and then you can launch Sonar for real. Clear as mud? ;-)

    Here's more info:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=639101&mpage=1


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    add: It still happens in 5.0.1 for me, but this gets around the issue. Btw, I've only had a couple crashes when using 5.0.1 and that was probably Kontakt related, and those issues are now resolved for me using Cakewalk's VST wrapper.
    post edited by ed_mcg - 2005/12/13 23:53:41
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    J_War
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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/14 00:21:54 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Infinite5ths

    If you can't end the "SONARPDR.EXE" process in the Task Manager, you probably have a MIDI loop or lockup somewhere. When Sonar crashes, I frequently end up with a MIDI loop (lockup, driver issue....whatever you want to call it). The Sonar MIDI activity indicator usually stays in the Windows Tray also. It doesn't disappear until you restart Sonar and shut it down properly.

    At any rate....the solution: Unplug ALL of your MIDI devices from your PC. I know...that can be a pain; but sometimes it is still faster than waiting for the the Sonar process to end on its own.


    Yes that's exactly the problem, when there are no way to kill the process.

    Ok, so Unpluging / Repluging my midisport should help sometimes. Thanks for the hint.

    By the way have you tried my workaround, the one on my post above ? It will work most of time, try it first as it could prevent you from unpluging hardware
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    If Your on XP 2005/12/14 03:58:33 (permalink)
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    RE: If Your on XP 2005/12/14 05:14:34 (permalink)
    My crashes are a little more severe. Not even the mouse or ctr/alt/del will work. Complete system freeze, requiring a manual shutdown.
    Usually happens while adding or moving nodes to automation, but I've had it happen out of the blue.

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    RE: Kill, Kill, Kill the process !!! 2005/12/14 06:52:34 (permalink)
    J_War,

    I think you said that your workaround was to use S4 to kill the frozen S5 process. I run only S4PE -- don't even own S5.

    Thanks for the suggestion at any rate. :-]

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    RE: If Your on XP 2005/12/14 15:36:07 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: gslawrence
    This shows how to use TaskKill...handy to know.
    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/taskkill.mspx
    I've tried TaskKill and it didn't work for me. It's like a zombie process, if you're familiar with Linux/Unix, it's listed in Task Manager, but TaskKill doesn't recognize the process number.

    The only method that works consitently is to turn off the midi controller, for me.
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    RE: If Your on XP 2005/12/14 15:39:00 (permalink)
    My crashes are a little more severe. Not even the mouse or ctr/alt/del will work. Complete system freeze, requiring a manual shutdown.

    Make sure to check the event list to see if there are any hints. Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Event Viewer.

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    RE: If Your on XP 2005/12/14 16:02:08 (permalink)
    Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Event Viewer
    Since we're on the subject (kind of ;-), my computer isn't leaving the dump files. You know, when you get a crash and it provides the message "Additional information is available here: <some-path>/accompan.txt", I look there and those files are present.

    Is this enabled through Admin Tools?
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