Voicing on instrumentals

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2006/01/23 12:43:15 (permalink)

Voicing on instrumentals

Say I contact a recorng studio and gain permission to use the instrumentals of a song for the main purpose of rewriting the lyrics. Which cakewalk program will allow me to record my voice onto the instrumental and have it sound as if it were in the original recording studio?

Also I would like to know, will the recording studio's send you a broken down version of the song. Say just guitar or just drums? And to take it a bit further could I over lap the guitar cords of two songs from the same artist and redirect the sound of the guitar by cutting and splicing the two or more songs. I was wondering this since I have not the ability to play that I might be able to take a particular guitarist, find a couple of simular songs bring up the solo on a scale and alter the solo with another one and have the notes line up at the points I desire?
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    Robomusic
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/23 15:16:27 (permalink)
    I doubt seriously that artsit are going to allow you to remix and use whole and parts of songs, and to use there copyrighted materials to make new songs.

    What you can do if you do not play is to start collecting royalty free loops that are oth available on the net, and through purchase from web sites, and music stores. These are what are called loops, and contain the sounds of guitars, basses, pianos, drums you name it for mixing and matching to make original songs from.

    any of the cakewalk programs will allow loop construction, and there are loop CD available here and on Sony's Acid Planet site to purchase, http://store.cakewalk.com/pf.asp?id=21 here are some ideeas.

    Project 5 does this as well, and does Music creator, Sonar, Kinetik, Plasma, and then the Acid series from Sony.

    Or another idea is to google for midi files on the internet and get midi version of popular songs and then cut and paste the midi tracks to make new songs, I used a drum and bass track from an old Bob Dylan midi file to rework it and make a new original tune last year, that when it was done did not resemble the dylan song and was basicall all new, I just needed the basic rhythm tracks as a bed to work with

    I'd Seize the day but i can't quite reach it!

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    Caine
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/23 17:32:17 (permalink)
    thanks as if you cant tell I am new to this. I was curious will the software allow you to play a recroded song from an artist and filter out different instruments. You know kinda like they do on CSI with video surveylance tapes.
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    joeh20_444
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/23 19:01:37 (permalink)
    You won't find anything that takes out specific instruments well. Maybe vocal removers will work in some situations, but its very rare. Like Robo said, focus on getting some loops. It's amazing how much creativity it takes to put the loops together to make a full song.

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    Caine
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/24 12:24:35 (permalink)
    alrighty then I'll give it a goes since that seems to be the only option. Just the same. I believe in the Movie School of Rock with Jack Black. Didn't he mention something about using the music from commercials cause they were public domain or something.
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/24 13:57:35 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Caine
    Jack Black. Didn't he mention something about using the music from commercials cause they were public domain or something.


    Yeah Jack Black would be my first choice for an attorney!

    [not trying to be too harsh here, BUT]
    Before you start copying/sampling someone else's work, perhaps you should search the Web for Copyright regulations .... or what is in the public domain ... fair use .... etc., etc. etc.

    And I don't want to burst any bubbles, but not everything you see on T.V. is reality or even true.
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/24 19:11:23 (permalink)
    Yep, that be true, I have been involved with many discussions on this subject, and the nutshell of it is to stay away from sampling things on CDs and TV, and Radio, just get busy finding free loops to use and then buy the ones you want, like I said before, there are good loops here at Cake, and else where like proloops http://www.proloops.com/ a subscription based media, also go over to Acid Planet, and get a member free membeship, they have what they call an 8 pack every week, it is 8 free loops to download and after a while they come in very handy. http://www.acidplanet.com/tools/8Packs/?T=9376 Also over there you will find loopers galore, and they can send you to lots of places to get free loops.

    I'd Seize the day but i can't quite reach it!

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    joeh20_444
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/24 21:01:43 (permalink)
    Just to add, I believe harryfox.com is the site, its all about the law side of the music industry. Granted, its been about 3 years since I've been there, so if its porn now, you're welcome! (only kidding) You may find more what you need there.

    Joe
    post edited by joeh20_444 - 2006/01/24 21:22:57
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    midimix
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/27 19:43:43 (permalink)
    Any musical knowledge at all? even if you don't play you can write in notes in the scale view - and the midi filw will play them for you . Of course you need to know some basic music theory - but I just wrote a piece for string quartet and can't play any of tyhe instruments! This software can be a wonderful thing when you start exploring it
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    Caine
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    RE: Voicing on instrumentals 2006/01/28 16:05:41 (permalink)
    Thanx for all the replies. I'll try to check some of the copyright laws when I get more time. Right now I'm trying to get the information I need to get a grant.
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