Move me over to "off topic" please

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2006/02/03 16:16:31 (permalink)

Move me over to "off topic" please

I wanted to reply to the "Help Denmark" post but for some reason my "reply" and "new post" buttons are non-existant in the "off topic" forum, so I had no choice but to post it in here so please move me over there mr. administrator

I am an American (origionally from LA) living in DK (for the last 9½ years now) and am also outraged over the response to the drawings in "Jytlands Posten" especially after finding this link:

Other drawings of mohamed satire and otherwise

Which clearly shows this is nothing new so why all the fuss now? Whats even more upsetting is that once I decided to do a search on the internet, it took me all of 5 minutes to find this link. Why hasn't a single reporter (that I have seen or read anyway) bothered to mention the fact that Mohamed has been depicted many many times in many ways over the centuries by many artist (and cartoonist)???

This whole thing is so crazy it makes me want to puke! Satire has almost always been directed at religion or politics, at least what I've seen in my life time! I've never in my life (I'm 41) considered myself a racist or prejudice towards another race or religion in any way but this crap is starting to scare me! My 2 cents.

Robert

PS I USUALLY stay out of off topic (at least religious or political) discussions! This is the first time I've felt so compelled to say something that didn't relate to music!
post edited by Robsdrums - 2006/02/03 16:23:38
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    Honest_Al
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    RE: Move me over to "off topic" please 2006/02/03 16:18:49 (permalink)
    I agree
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    j boy
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    RE: Move me over to "off topic" please 2006/02/03 16:33:34 (permalink)
    When I was a kid I was taught "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me". Unfortunately the world has apparently gotten much thinner-skinned since then. Too bad.
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    Robsdrums
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    RE: Move me over to "off topic" please 2006/02/03 17:08:04 (permalink)
    In all fairness, I went back and checked my own link and it looks like some reporters have started refering to the that site (I haven't been there since yesterday and it has been updated since then). But still, this has been going on for quite a while over here.

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    RE: Move me over to "off topic" please 2006/02/03 18:39:21 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: j boy

    When I was a kid I was taught "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me". Unfortunately the world has apparently gotten much thinner-skinned since then. Too bad.

    What's that saying? "A picture is worth a thousand words". I think after a thousand words you'd be pretty much done. :-)
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    im more offended by.. 2006/02/03 19:06:53 (permalink)
    I'm more offended by the fact that the President of the US is a liar, who spies on Americans, who tortures people, and does all this with the tax dollars I pay into the fisc. This makes me sick. I don't really care too much about those cartoons.

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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/04 11:13:49 (permalink)
    I'm more offended by the fact that the President of the US is a liar, who spies on Americans, who tortures people, and does all this with the tax dollars I pay into the fisc. This makes me sick. I don't really care too much about those cartoons.

    Sounds like you don't really care about the truth either --- or maybe you've drunk too much liberal democrat koolaid.

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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/04 11:30:49 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dcastle

    I'm more offended by the fact that the President of the US is a liar, who spies on Americans, who tortures people, and does all this with the tax dollars I pay into the fisc. This makes me sick. I don't really care too much about those cartoons.


    Sounds like you don't really care about the truth either --- or maybe you've drunk too much liberal democrat koolaid.


    I agree... this is off-topic.

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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/04 11:47:20 (permalink)
    Sounds like you don't really care about the truth either --- or maybe you've drunk too much liberal democrat koolaid.


    There ya go Dave, we do agree on some things! I always take Main Stream Media "facts" with a grain of salt.

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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/05 06:43:43 (permalink)
    The Danish embassy in Beirut is burning. There appear to be some fairly violent protests going on.


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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/05 12:23:24 (permalink)
    In Britain the Labor Party recently tried to limit freedom of speech so that you could not critisize religions. They only managed to do this partially. One of the opponents was Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) who defended the right of comedians to make religious jokes. In Jyllands-Posten this morning there was an article by Rowan Atkinson, it boils down to this: Freedom of speech means you can joke about anything and critisize, but not threaten.

    Now, the newspaper I subscribe to started all the current muslim uproar with 12 cartoons, actually published to test if we really had freedom of speech. (An author had found it impossible to get a book about Mohamed illustrated. The artists were afraid. ) So this plus the burning of embassies show me that whereas we are joking, those we are up against are threatening. In other words we follow Rowan Atkinson's concept about the responsibility of freedom of speech, but they don't.
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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/05 12:30:57 (permalink)
    In other words we follow Rowan Atkinson's concept about the responsibility of freedom of speech, but they don't.


    :) .. but...of course! what did you expect!?

    i'm just saying (the simple truth/facts) - you're in a total different level of thinking (thinking..not going out to the streets and burning stuff/swearing to send your kids to a Jihad and get rid/burn/blow up of all the "Western World") ..in your country you can't imagine how it all looks to the "other side" (can you think like a terrorist for example?) ..well, maybe you've seen it in movies or on TV
    so you can have a clue of what's really going on
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    RE: im more offended by.. 2006/02/05 14:34:35 (permalink)
    Has the URL of Sonar Forums changed Ron because I must be in the wrong place?
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