Looking for a sound..Distorted Organ

Native Instruments B4.

Perhaps free-/donationware Rumpelrausch Täips products.

Junski

I demoed B4 (version 1) and didn't like the sound. Maybe NI still has mp3 demoes in their site demoing B4 along with a real B3. The difference to me is so obvious, the B4 sounds buzzy, and listening to the real B3 is a relief.

Now I got Charlie Retro Organ which is a sampled B3. It doesn't give you all the different sounds you can get with a drawbar implementation in a B3-wannabe, but the sounds you do get with Charlie is like a real B3. That's why it won my personal shoot-out between the two.

Rapture has some nice organ sounds. The "Jimmy ..." preset has a nice distorted interaction between notes. I don't think it is so authentically B-3, but works non-the-less.

Briefly looking over the demo for the B4 II...that appears to be the ticket. I will see if I can find something in the presets...or something close that can be tweaked into the sound I am looking for.

ORIGINAL: Junski

Native Instruments B4.

Perhaps free-/donationware Rumpelrausch Täips products.

Junski

Would you say that the sound on that clip right there is of a Hammond B3?

ORIGINAL: ccmacdon

I can tell you, as a Hammond Player for the last 40 years, B4II is the best Software Emulation of a Hammond B3 that exists today (for Windows/PC). Furthermore, it is as good or perhaps better than any of the Hardware Clones that exist today (Korg/Hammond/Roland etc). B4II is also a vast improvement over the original version of B4, which in itself was pretty good, although somewhat limited (B4II has a much wider range of sounds, and amp/leslie combinations). If I'm not mistaken there is a free demo available, that you can download and try. B4II is absolutely THE BEST Software for Hammond sounds. Craig

Indeed....I have the NI B4 II demo loaded up, and on my free time here at work (uhhmm bathroom breaks, and lunch...yeah...that's it) I am reading all about how to work this thing...drawbars, tone wheeels...all new stuff for me...but exciting....this is a cool instrument.

ORIGINAL: bitman

I heard that from a B4 B4
So you should try the B4
B4 you try anything else.

The B4 has a couple of presets that are real distorted. Bone to be Wild is one of them, Kraut B3 is another. The B4 is the best emulator of the B3 I've heard. B4 is also tweakable so you can create just about any tone you want. Killer product in IMHO.

DaveT

P.S. But I am going to try our Danish friends Charlie's organ out-they have a demo. I will post the results. The fact that you can't change the drawbars in realtime is definitely a minus, but I do remember an organ I use to use on my EMU Ultra sampler wher the modulation bar crossfaded from a slow leslie to a fast (samples) and it is hard to beat. Will be in touch. Either way, the B4 is worth having because if you are adept at using drawbars and vibrato and leslie toggles you can create some good stuff. (and fix your chops.) :)

the audio demos of charlie's are really warm and I have loved what I have heard. Am downloading the demo now. I may have to eat my words--though my initial feelings are that you need both--tough saying huh--I may have to bite the bullet.

Well, it's not a software solution, which maybe is what you want, and what most folks so far have suggested, but the thing that sold me on my Kurzweil 2600 (besides [almost] actual drawbars!) was the sample called "Lord's Blown Amp," which is absolutely indistinguishable from any Deep Purple recordings I have.

The factory sounds also include a whole bunch of B3 simulations (such as Keith's Revenge, Dirty B, Hammond Deluxe) that are amazing, some with Leslie, some without, and all with that Leslie effect adjustabe via a slider.

As good as the factory sounds are, some of the user-made ones available on the Kurzweil forums are even better!

Of course, this "solution" for getting the sound that you want is so ridiculously expensive that you might as well just buy exactly the same gear that made the sound you heard in the first place!

My feeling on the Organized Trio. Initially I was pretty impressed. Almost sent the guy his $30 to get rid of the obnoxious nag screen. But the more I played with it the more I was disappointed. Kept adjusting everything and could never get exactly what I wanted. Part of the problem is that the drawbars can only be set to integers, no in betweens. All's I know is I can spend a week with OT not getting close to the "Right" sound. Or I can sit down at my A-101 and be there in 5 minutes. Best 30 bucks I never spent.

That said, for the price, it's worth looking at. I suspect that if you've already invested in NI's B4 you'll be wasting your time.