Need more Real (and Synth) Drums...suggestions

When I upgraded my P5V1 to P5V2, i was very happy with how amazing the Dimension sampler was. I use it for practically everything..the only sound i don't seem to have a plethora is are the drums. Velocity has a few sets which are good, dimension has alot of cymbals, snares, kicks, whatnot..but I need more. My music is mainly based around realistic drums, but i would use more techno-electro drums if i had more options..

A Few questions...
-does Dimension Pro add alot more drums/drumsets? Ive been thinking of buying that upgrade...
-Are there any good Drum Samplers that anyone can recommend, in the 50-150 dollar range? I was looking at Battery 2 for a little while, and as far as i know..thats the only drum sampler in that price range
-Are there any additional Velocity drum kits i can get out there, or any good stand-alone WAV drum kits?

And i hate loops, all i ever find on websites are drum loops, its been making my search real annoying..any suggestions?

I use and enjoy LinPLug's RM IV (click me!).
I know there are some other users who post tracks here who (ab)use it, the thing is you probably want to demo whatever software you might be interested in purchasing.
JM2CW (just my 2¢ worth)

-MDK

I do demo the software i can find...the problem is I dont really know where to find any of this software. But thanks for the suggestions so far, ill be checking them out shorttly

ORIGINAL: three_eyed_otter

Battery is designed for you to buy the add-ons. IMO you would be better off w/Linplugs rmIV or the long in the tooth DR008. Personally I drool over microtonic. Do not forget the Roland Groove Synth electronic drums already paid for at your disposal.

have a good one
3Eo

sorry, but I must disagree. but then I use battery on every single song I write. you can get lots and lots of free or almost free samples, and it doesn't take much work at all to make new kits. plus of course they give you lots of really nice kits in the box.
just my 2cents!

I actually do use KvrAudio.com searches all the time. Last time i used it i dont remember getting good results, but ill definitely have to go at it again.

The only reason i dont want free plugins, is because i want something thats moderately professional, and that someone who got paid actually put some work behind it. Drums are still hard for me to work with (EQ,compression, tones, pitches, etc), so i like it when professional software makes it easy to use efficiently. But i dont want to spend 300 bucks on one piece of software

I also like software that i can get at academicsuperstore.com ...since i am a student and even though my studies have absolutely nothing to do with music, i can get some pretty sweet discounts, heh

edit: i probably said this already (sorry i tend to rabble on when i write!)...but i would love to have like an ungodly amount of samples, like several gigs of drum sounds/hits would absolutely make my day

http://www.ultimatesoundbank.com/usb/exec/plugsound3 you could try this. never used it before, but i do use X-treme fx.

I "(ab)use" linplugs RMIV for most of my stuff.

it is very worthwhile to learn to get good sounds out of Velocity through the use of separate channels and applying differnt fx to different parts of the kit, even if you do choose to buy another drum sampler or synth

there is pretty much nothing that brings a pro sound to a production more than great sounding drums (unless we're talking brilliantly recorded acoustic instruments (esp acoustic guitar) and voice)

so learn to split the kick, snare and hihats and other into separate channels and apply
kick -- compression
snare -- compression, touch or reverb and/or distortion
hi-hats -- flanger or phasor
other -- ???

much of the point of an expensive package like Battery (and probably RMIV) is a lot of this can be done inside the synth itself
DR-008 has a very usable interface. I picked it up on a blow out clearance for $50.00 some time ago. The pronlem with DR-008 is that its drums kits sound very dated by this time.

I really like using microTonic. It's a drum synth (rather than sampler) with a lot of easy to use features for creating and triggering patterns and individual hits. But you have to like the sound of synthetic drums.

and don't overlook the use of FLStudio simply as a drum machine -- it also has its own particular sound of semi-processed drums, but it's very easty to slap together a set of drum sequences and it works flawlessly as a vst inside P5.

I picked up battery as part of the NI Komplete package and I have to say I really enjoy Battery 2 version, but if I hadn't gone down the NI Komplete package I was definitely leaning toward RMIV -- it has a very clean usable interface and lots of nice sounds.

but maybe you shouldn't listen to me cause somehow I've gotten further and further awy from using drums

You mean the drums in that Roland Groove instrument? I almost never use that thing cuz alot of the sounds sound real bad to me in that, heh..ill check it out tho

As of right now tho...im leaning towards getting the Battery 2 sampler. 3.5 gigs of samples. Tons of filter/eq/tweaking options. And i can get it new for 99 bucks.