Sid Viscous 
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:02:51
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ORIGINAL: spanky
Hey Sid, what's a leftist?
Everyone that thinks 4.7% unemployment, and the most stable stock market in history is failure.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:04:28
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ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
ORIGINAL: Qwerty69
I think you will find he votes in the US. Therefore the use of "our" is a correct use of language, not a leftist smoke screen. And instead of inventing smoke haze, you could also have chosen to read the bit where I said -
His press comments around this album have included a statement where he is at pains to say this is a non-partisan record. As a republican he wants to see Bush and co. kicked out so the party can have a "real" republican representative -- not someone in the pocket of big business.
- a little more carefully.
Regards,
Q.
Now, how does someone who is not a US citizen do that? I think we may have found out why Democrats keep getting so many votes.
Yeah - I wasn't sure - that's why I went with "I think you will find...". I was attempting to remember the line he gave on CNN. I'll dig it out and post verbatim. So said, I think the essence of the sentiment holds true. Hang ten. Q.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:05:08
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And this is a bad thing compared to, oh, selling the soul of America to special interests?
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:05:31
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ps as to the mix, I do have a complaint the the bit rate must be the lowest possible, I don't think it would even put a dent in a dial-up connection's bandwidth. Hard to say what it really sounds like.
That's weird - must be some sort of bandwidth metering automatically happening. It is near CD quality at my end. Certainly no nasty compression artifacts. Ciao, Q.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:07:29
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ORIGINAL: spanky
And this is a bad thing compared to, oh, selling the soul of America to special interests?
Oh, a leftist is also anyone that thinks Dubya invented that.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:11:11
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:16:22
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ORIGINAL: spanky
Invented what?
The really interesting thing is that I made a direct comment to your post and it was quoted. Even if you can't remember what you posted, you could read it.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:17:17
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ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
ORIGINAL: spanky
Hey Sid, what's a leftist?
Everyone that thinks 4.7% unemployment, and the most stable stock market in history is failure.
Let's put aside the issue of the $8.3 Trillion national debt for just one moment and consider the impact of the estimated $811 BILLION(!) going to fund the wars against "terrorism". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4955418.stm $811 Billion? Billion. $811,000,000,000 taken away from healthcare, education, social services, roads etc. Ask any future president whether the actions of this administration were a failure or not. Regards, Q.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:18:19
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Actually it still does not make sense. That is why I asked the question. What did he invent, special interests, the soul of america?
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:19:50
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ORIGINAL: Qwerty69
ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
ORIGINAL: spanky
Hey Sid, what's a leftist?
Everyone that thinks 4.7% unemployment, and the most stable stock market in history is failure.
Let's put aside the issue of the $8.3 Trillion national debt for just one moment and consider the impact of the estimated $811 BILLION(!) going to fund the wars against "terrorism".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4955418.stm
$811 Billion?
Billion.
$811,000,000,000 taken away from healthcare, education, social services, roads etc. Ask any future president whether the actions of this administration were a failure or not.
Regards,
Q.
IF there was any chance that it would have been spent on those things you'd have something. Did you know we have the most funded school system in the world?
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:20:39
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Sid - The whole left vs right paradigm is just a control mechanism to splinter opinion. Both sides are equally funded by and beholden to big business. The entire western world is addicted to oil. It is running out. At the same time, the two most populous nations on earth, China and India, are inventing a middle class -- all of whom want cars. If John Kerry had won the last election, the same stuff would still be happening.
Regards,
Q.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:20:58
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ORIGINAL: spanky
Actually it still does not make sense. That is why I asked the question. What did he invent, special interests, the soul of america?
Then you need to make statements that make sense.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:21:29
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Right. Can I make you another drink?
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:22:12
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ORIGINAL: Qwerty69
Sid - The whole left vs right paradigm is just a control mechanism to splinter opinion. Both sides are equally funded by and beholden to big business. The entire western world is addicted to oil. It is running out. At the same time, the two most populous nations on earth, China and India, are inventing a middle class -- all of whom want cars. If John Kerry had won the last election, the same stuff would still be happening.
Regards,
Q.
Then why **** more about one guy than another?
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:25:33
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You're just figuring that out?
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:28:19
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Did you know we have the most funded school system in the world?
I presume you are referring to the US National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) report from 2005 - Comparative Indicators of Education in the United States and Other G8 Countries: 2004? If I am reading correctly, this is a comparison snapshot using private and public funding to compare the load. It would be more interesting to see just the public investment levels compared. I had a quick look on their website but couldn't find it. Ciao, Q.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:30:34
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Since we're way off topic anyway, has anyone checked out David Gilmour's latest release?
It's not political at all. Just awesome music with a perfect production.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:31:12
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ORIGINAL: Qwerty69
Did you know we have the most funded school system in the world?
I presume you are referring to the US National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) report from 2005 - Comparative Indicators of Education in the United States and Other G8 Countries: 2004?
If I am reading correctly, this is a comparison snapshot using private and public funding to compare the load. It would be more interesting to see just the public investment levels compared. I had a quick look on their website but couldn't find it.
Ciao,
Q.
Next you'll do the old "the governemt is bad, let's give the government more money" thing. Typical leftist drivel. This is exactly why Congress gets away with murder.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:32:43
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ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
Then why **** more about one guy than another?
- He is the one in power - He is backed and his administration filled with some of the more extreme elements of the republican party - Removing him is the first step in getting accountability Q.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:34:13
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ORIGINAL: jimack
Since we're way off topic anyway, has anyone checked out David Gilmour's latest release?
It's not political at all. Just awesome music with a perfect production.
No I haven't - I always liked his sound. Thanks for the tip. Apologies for everything else. Ciao, Q.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:34:57
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Then why **** more about one guy than another?
- He is the one in power
- He is backed and his administration filled with some of the more extreme elements of the republican party
- Removing him is the first step in getting accountability
Q.
Clinton was the same. I don't suspect you said any of that about him. If you're happy with your hypocrisy, who am I to complain. The only major difference between the last two Presidents is the letter after their name.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:40:14
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ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
Clinton was the same. I don't suspect you said any of that about him. If you're happy with your hypocrisy, who am I to complain. The only major difference between the last two Presidents is the letter after their name.
Clinton was just as bad and beholden to big business => THEY ALL ARE! However, Clinton didn't blatantly lie to the people to start two illegal wars - he lied about a blowjob and he was impeached. I guess we should save the litigation for the really big issues, after all... Cum-stain vs. how many thousands already dead? Q.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:45:10
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ORIGINAL: Sid Viscous
Clinton was the same. I don't suspect you said any of that about him. If you're happy with your hypocrisy, who am I to complain. The only major difference between the last two Presidents is the letter after their name.
Clinton was just as bad and beholden to big business => THEY ALL ARE!
However, Clinton didn't blatantly lie to the people to start two illegal wars - he lied about a blowjob and he was impeached. I guess we should save the litigation for the really big issues, after all...
Cum-stain vs. how many thousands already dead?
Q.
HOw many people died in the bombings that Clinton lied about and did? Clinton told us there were WMD in Iraq and bombed them and kept sanctions that killed a couple million. He also sat back and did nothing as 2 million Rwandans were killed. Try to protect your hero all you want. It just makes you look stupid.
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:47:32
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Gimour played Toronto the other day. Blew the audience away.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:48:16
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ORIGINAL: Greybeard
Gimour played Toronto the other day. Blew the audience away.
Yawn...
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:48:21
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ORIGINAL: Greybeard
Gimour played Toronto the other day. Blew the audience away.
With bombs and illegal wars? Or by music?
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:55:06
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Sid,
I've already said the left vs. right thing is a distraction. Bush is here and now. Clinton was yesterday. Bush Snr. before that was equally bad with the atrocities of depleted uranium inflicted on the troops and Iraqi population.
If you want to be gross and do a body count tally for each President then fine go ahead - but remember the 320 tonnes of depleted uranium dropped on Iraq during Gulf War I which has been estimated as increasing the cancer rates up to 25,000 times.
Frankly, I wouldn't cross the road to pee on either Bush or Clinton if they were on fire. All of these actions are criminal - as were Clinton's around Waco and Ruby Ridge. I am not talking party politics here - this goes much further, but as of today and now - GWB is THE main figurehead of the people perpetrating the criminal actions.
This Neil Young record is simply saying that it is time for all of us in the western world to regain control of our governments and end the madness.
Q.
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Qwerty69
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/29 23:56:41
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ORIGINAL: Greybeard
Gimour played Toronto the other day. Blew the audience away.
Is he playing the old PF stuff or just the newer solo material? Q.
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Sid Viscous
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RE: OT: Listen to Neil Young's new album "Livin' With War"
2006/04/30 00:01:39
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ORIGINAL: Qwerty69
Sid,
I've already said the left vs. right thing is a distraction. Bush is here and now. Clinton was yesterday. Bush Snr. before that was equally bad with the atrocities of depleted uranium inflicted on the troops and Iraqi population.
If you want to be gross and do a body count tally for each President then fine go ahead - but remember the 320 tonnes of depleted uranium dropped on Iraq during Gulf War I which has been estimated as increasing the cancer rates up to 25,000 times.
Frankly, I wouldn't cross the road to pee on either Bush or Clinton if they were on fire. All of these actions are criminal - as were Clinton's around Waco and Ruby Ridge. I am not talking party politics here - this goes much further, but as of today and now - GWB is THE main figurehead of the people perpetrating the criminal actions.
This Neil Young record is simply saying that it is time for all of us in the western world to regain control of our governments and end the madness.
Q.
Hey, you started the body count. Then you complain the past, yet talk about it freely when it isn't your boy. You're a fake and a hypocrite. Have fun.
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