SendLocalOff=0 not working

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2006/06/22 02:49:32 (permalink)

SendLocalOff=0 not working

I do not want Sonar to turn off the local control on my Triton Extreme.

Is there any way to turn off this "feature"?

The help screen under local control says a value of SendLocalOff=1 in the ttseq.ini file will send a local off message, but is silent on my desire. A value of 0 still turns off local control same as 1. Same with -1.

Is there any switch to tell Sonar not to mess with my local control???

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    Stone House Studios
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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/06/22 06:47:40 (permalink)
    I do not want Sonar to turn off the local control on my Triton Extreme


    I know you have heard this in another thread, but if you choose to have your midi studio all wired up, then local off makes the most sense as you will be recieving the commands through Sonar and back into the Triton - latency should not be an issue.
    Even if you are using the audio outs of the Triton back into Sonar, there is no need to have local control on. Look at your synth as two separate beings: a keyboard controller, and a sound module. (That is actually how it is) You loose nothing routing the midi from the keyboard to the sound module through Sonar.

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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/06/22 07:09:55 (permalink)
    If SONAR has been setting LocalOff and you never turn local control back on, you may want to set SendLocalOn=1 to turn local control back on when SONAR exits.

    If you want to start working with MIDI, you probably want to do as others have posted. Connect MIDI Out on your keyboard to MIDI In on your MIDI interface, and MIDI Out on the interface to MIDI In on your keyboard. Then allow SONAR to set local control OFF when it starts. This avoids doubled notes. With local control off, playing on the keyboard sends the MIDI data to SONAR and SONAR echoes it to the port and channel of the current track which then plays the notes in the sound producing engine of the keyboard. Unlike soft synths, there is no latency.

    To work this way, set these .ini variables in TTSSEQ.INI in the Options section ...

    SendLocalOff=1 //This turns off local control when SONAR starts
    SendLocalOn=1 //This turns on local control when SONAR exits

    Hope that helps.

    Tom
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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/06/22 09:23:33 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Tom Roussell [Cakewalk]

    SendLocalOff=1 //This turns off local control when SONAR starts
    SendLocalOn=1 //This turns on local control when SONAR exits

    Hope that helps.


    I've been running Cakes and SONARs that way for years. Works great here.

    Ben N. Moore
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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/06/22 12:42:45 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Tom Roussell [Cakewalk]

    If SONAR has been setting LocalOff and you never turn local control back on, you may want to set SendLocalOn=1 to turn local control back on when SONAR exits.

    If you want to start working with MIDI, you probably want to do as others have posted. Connect MIDI Out on your keyboard to MIDI In on your MIDI interface, and MIDI Out on the interface to MIDI In on your keyboard. Then allow SONAR to set local control OFF when it starts. This avoids doubled notes. With local control off, playing on the keyboard sends the MIDI data to SONAR and SONAR echoes it to the port and channel of the current track which then plays the notes in the sound producing engine of the keyboard. Unlike soft synths, there is no latency.

    To work this way, set these .ini variables in TTSSEQ.INI in the Options section ...

    SendLocalOff=1 //This turns off local control when SONAR starts
    SendLocalOn=1 //This turns on local control when SONAR exits

    Hope that helps.



    I really appreciate all the help from all who responded. I am going to adopt the approved approach. So often I am odd man out.

    But, two things.

    1.My DAW is not always stable and the reason I leave Sonar is when it reboots itself. SendLocalOn is not going to work in this case. The synth not making any noise adds to the insult of the unwanted reboot.

    2. I used to have a M-Audio 8x8 MIDI adapter. I got rid of it when I tested it's latency at 13 milliseconds, to pass a signal from the input to the output. There is no audio latency but a fair potential for MIDI latency. Now days I use a Frontier Design Dakota/Sierra. I am not going to test it's MIDI latency, because I want to stay (more or less) sane.

    Anyway, you guys are great. Thanks for taking the time to re-orient me.
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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/06/23 00:19:26 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: pharohoknaughty

    I really appreciate all the help from all who responded. I am going to adopt the approved approach. So often I am odd man out.

    But, two things.

    1.My DAW is not always stable and the reason I leave Sonar is when it reboots itself. SendLocalOn is not going to work in this case. The synth not making any noise adds to the insult of the unwanted reboot.



    I had a keyboard that defaulted to the opposite state than I wanted on power-up every time. I just got used to changing it on the keyboard itself. It wasn't a saved parameter.

    Ben N. Moore
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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/12/17 21:36:26 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bnmoore

    ORIGINAL: Tom Roussell [Cakewalk]

    SendLocalOff=1 //This turns off local control when SONAR starts
    SendLocalOn=1 //This turns on local control when SONAR exits

    Hope that helps.


    I don't see these line in my TTSSEQ.ini file. Do I need to add these manually?

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    RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2006/12/18 16:48:34 (permalink)
    Yes, these lines may need to be added to the .ini file manually.

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    Re: RE: SendLocalOff=0 not working 2016/03/26 20:50:01 (permalink)
    Sorry to bring up an old thread yet again but this is driving me crazy and wasting a LOT of my time. Sonar sets Local to off in all of my synths every time I start it up. I DO NOT want it to do that!! 
     
    I tried adding SendLocalOff=0 to the TTSSEQ.ini file but the next time I started Sonar it did the same thing AND it removed that line from the file! 
     
    I checked in Cakewalk.ini and found it right at the top of the file but obviously it is having no effect.
     
    [WinCake]
    SendLocalOff=0
     
    Is there some way I can make this work? 
     
    Thanks
    Scott
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