Mic'ing question

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2006/07/23 16:48:26 (permalink)

Mic'ing question

I've Been Recording for a while now and have not really had a problem, but this is kind of irratating. When I'm specifically recording guitar I use one or two sm57's and when I record, it records fine for the most part but there's the issue of it being too quiet. I know it's not the amp (Marshall Head) cause my distortion channel is at about 5-6 and my master channel is at about 6-7 And I'm also using a cabinet (4x12), so I know that the source is loud enough, but when I check the db meter on the I/O in Sonar that my guitar is assigned to, it only registers at about -30 db. Now I know that's great for having head room, but I don't understand why it's regestering so quitely. When I use the same sm57's to record drums they work great! I just don't get how they can pick up drums very well, but when their in front of a screaming speaker (1-2 inches away) they don't pick up as well as they should.

Equipment for this includes - Marshall Head
Crate Half Stack
Sonar 5 PE
Sm57
Emu 1820 Audio Dock

I think thats all the important equipment, any help would be appreciated.

Eric,

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    B_Nez
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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/23 23:36:04 (permalink)
    Have you tried the gain knob? It's next to the MIC jack on your audio dock.

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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/24 02:27:43 (permalink)
    I don't use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for guitar, because when you turn the volume up to get a decent volume the recording sounds like ****. I strictly stick to the rear 1/4" inputs on the back.

    I only use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for condenser mics (acoustic guitar, Drum overheads)

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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/24 10:19:54 (permalink)
    Two TFProâ„¢ studio-grade preamps with Mic/Line inputs via Neutrik connectors, 48V phantom power and 40dB of gain - plug microphones, guitars and keyboards straight into your system


    have a good one
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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/24 12:43:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: lespaul678

    I don't use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for guitar, because when you turn the volume up to get a decent volume the recording sounds like ****. I strictly stick to the rear 1/4" inputs on the back.

    I only use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for condenser mics (acoustic guitar, Drum overheads)


    sumthin' sounds funny here - SM57's by nature of their design are gain hogs. You need a fair amount of headroom for an SM57. What you're experiencing is normal. Do asearch over in the gear section (where this post probably belongs anyway). Someone posted a cool tweak for SM57's that lowered the gain floor considerably. It was an easy mod from what I remember. Do a search. Should be easy to find. That might help your situation.

    Your signal chain looks wierd to me but I don't have the time to go researching your gear. Get a better preamp. That might help too.

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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/24 14:20:03 (permalink)
    Are the rear inputs you menyioned -10db (unbalanced) or +4 db (balanced) inputs? If you are plugged into an instrument jack (as opposed to mic inputs) the attenuation would account for this.
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    RE: Mic'ing question 2006/07/24 15:00:26 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: krizrox

    ORIGINAL: lespaul678

    I don't use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for guitar, because when you turn the volume up to get a decent volume the recording sounds like ****. I strictly stick to the rear 1/4" inputs on the back.

    I only use the front 1/4" XLR I/O's for condenser mics (acoustic guitar, Drum overheads)


    sumthin' sounds funny here - SM57's by nature of their design are gain hogs. You need a fair amount of headroom for an SM57. What you're experiencing is normal. Do asearch over in the gear section (where this post probably belongs anyway). Someone posted a cool tweak for SM57's that lowered the gain floor considerably. It was an easy mod from what I remember. Do a search. Should be easy to find. That might help your situation.

    Your signal chain looks wierd to me but I don't have the time to go researching your gear. Get a better preamp. That might help too.



    Exactly ! That's why they work so well for guitar amps, if you amp in on "11" the sound level from the mic is just about right
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