Trance Kick samples?

Well, if you're using a Cakewalk program, and I assume you are, just record a totally quantized 4 to a bar pattern with any kick sample, like those in the soft-synths that come with Cakewalk, then mash the bageez out of it with whatever effects you want. I'm sure you can come up with something cool you'd like--and recording the pattern itself is a 1 minute project.

Randy
rbowser

hehe, yeah I Do tend to be more all over the Forums these days. Interesting stuff everywhere.

OK, good deal that you're trying your hand at coming up with your own patterns. Slip editing doesn't permanently change the clip, it just tells the program how much of a clip you want to have play. When you go to stretch it out for looping, the section that you covered with the slip editing is still there.

Sounds like the pattern you recorded isn't at the exactly length it needs to be. Now you need to go in there and actually permanently delete the extra bit which is making it longer than just one measure. With the grid on, determine the ending of the measure--delete the extra stuff. Then try looping it again.

Randy
rbowser

Oh man! Really? What is going on with all that looping hassle anyway? As you can see from the thread on the other board, there are some mysterious things that at least those of us participating on the thread can't figure out.

Well, good ol cut and paste is all I do. There are still many advantages to it--being able to drop small or large sections wherever you want. So easy to paste 5,000 copies of the same clip if you want--you just tell the C&P dialogue what you want to do. Maybe looping is just over-rated? Well--it's popular because when it works, people can make Loud Music really fast and easy that way.

Good luck with it all.

Randy
rbowser

Hello again, Drum Junkie

I'm back to say that maybe a new thread should be started--"CALLING ALL LOOPERS!"---Because my curiosity got me going again this morning. I wanted to look into this problem you reported of your loop still having a gap at the head of the repeats.

Same thing happened to me after I recorded a two bar kick-snare pattern. BUT I fixed it--Seems odd though. There the pattern was, bounced audio of the MIDI drums--and it looked like the correct length. BUt I could see in the Loop Construction window that there was a blank section after the notes, equally as long as the recorded part. Obviously if I tried to loop that, there would be a gap of silence before each repetition.

I turned off slices so it was a regular audio clip again. And NOw this extra tail of silence was visible on the clip in the track view--?!--It wasn't there before. But fine, I selected that tail of silence and deleted it.

When I returned to the Loop Construction window, turned Enable Looping back on--THEN I could drag the clip and it would have the pattern repeated without gaps. Whew!--What a hassle.

BUT--and this is why I still think I may try starting another topic thread---You know this whole thing of how the Beats in Clip changes the "original BPM"---TOday, with this test clip--There was NO setting that would get the BPM to settle in to the project's real tempo of 150. It would go to 145 and some fraction, or 154 and some fraction.

Results--unable to synch the clip up with the project.

I take back what I said yesterday when I thought I'd solved the problem of getting the original BPM to be right with these loops.

I don't get it. I understand people are making this all work for them, but you, Beagle and I sure aren't making it work. Nutty!

Randy
rbowser

Hey, Randy we are definitely running into these looping problems like no one else lol, I can make my 4 beat kick pattern work by dragging and dropping with no silence before the next measure but it just consumes tons of time, which is why your idea of a staright up looping forum topic is a good idea, we will figure this out lol

You'll find some great sample packs here from established U.K Hard Dance artists to download for free. If you can't make a decent track from these then well...might as well give up

Free samples to download

There's also the latest one over on the production page as well that's worth checking out too

Yeah they come in handy. It's worth keep checking as they do those packs fairly regular too.

The guys on there are really helpful if you're into dance music, lots of established artists go on there & it's a good crowd.

Hey thanks for that link Kenny, there are some good guidelines on there for getting that "perfect" kick lol its' really an art applying eq and tweaking instruments to get that signature sound, I must of read a thousand articles but I know I have got at least a thousand more lol