Question about a scale

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2006/11/16 11:59:38 (permalink)

Question about a scale

I'm aware of the normal modes. However, yesterday I was playing with a scale that looks like this:

E F G# A B C D E

Normal modes only have half and whole steps so this isn't one of them since this has the F - G# interval of 3 half steps. Now I'm sure that there has to be a way of naming such scales - I'm just not familiar with it.

And is there some musical tradition out there that such a scale would fit into?

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    Kicker
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    RE: Question about a scale 2006/11/16 23:19:19 (permalink)
    Major Phrygian: .5 1.5 .5 1 .5 1 1

    http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/exotic-scales.txt

    EDIT: I stopped looking after I found an intervalic match, but this one appears to be the same intervals with the same root:
    Jewish: E F G# A B C D E

    ref.
    Major Phrygian: C Db E F G Ab Bb C
    post edited by Kicker - 2006/11/17 01:48:47
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    Rinkwraith
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    RE: Question about a scale 2006/11/17 04:05:09 (permalink)
    I think there's an E in the Spanish scales following that same pattern.

    Or maybe its just an A minor harmonic starting on E.

    Got to admit I had to look this up on Wikipedia:
    The Phrygian dominant scale is constructed by raising the third of the Phrygian scale and is the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale, the fifth being the dominant.

    It is often known as a Spanish Phrygian scale, as it is commonly used in flamenco music. It is also known as Ahava Rabboh or Freygish when used in Hebrew prayers and Klezmer music (earning it the additional title of the Jewish scale), or as the Hijaz scale when used in Turkish or Arabic music. Often, it has found application in modern progressive rock/metal, most notably with Joe Satriani, who cites the Phrygian Dominant as his favorite scale.

    The sequence of steps comprising the Phrygian dominant scale is

    half – augmented – half – whole – half – whole – whole
    post edited by Rinkwraith - 2006/11/17 04:25:25

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    RE: Question about a scale 2006/11/17 09:23:50 (permalink)
    Thanks Kicker and Rinkwraith. Much appreciated. That is exactly the information I was looking for. I was pretty sure there had to be a name for this scale and that it had to be in use. As I have been fooling around with it the past two nights, it works musically which isn't always the case.

    I'm not at all surprised it is used in middle eastern music as it had that sort of flavor for me (and I tend to like middle eastern music when I hear it).

    I also found it very interesting that it is used in flamenco music. In fact, my intention was to use it in a dance with a somewhat middle eastern flavor to it.
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