Easy Bone Head mix screw up

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2006/11/29 21:43:24 (permalink)

Easy Bone Head mix screw up


Have you ever done a perfect mix in Sonar, it sounds great on the Sonar platform when you hit play.

Then you do all the right things with Dither etc....and all that .

But it does not sound the same when you play it back on the common PC Windows Media Player?

It makes you insane. Cant figure out what is going on with your dithered 16 bit mix.

Well Windows Media player hides some enhancements wich you have to make visual to see.
I had the SRS Wow Effects enabled and some other automatic volume thing happening. I did not even know it.

All my mixes had increased Bass and sounded horrible with breathing volume.

I turned everything off with the "enhancments" like Graphic EQ, Automatic Volume adjustments,etc...

Then my mixes sounded the same as playing them out of Sonar.

Maybe most of you know this already but somtimes the easiest things get looked over.

I apologize if this was not a helpful to most, but this drove me looooony!


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    Jose7822
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/29 22:13:29 (permalink)
    Don't apologize since this has probably happened to other people before (not me though :-P). So this is a valid post for all of those who didn't know about these features of WMP. Thanks for posting.
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 09:04:40 (permalink)
    I can't say it's ever happened, but every couple weeks I check all of those settings just to make sure I don't mess with my ears. I get paranoid about things like that... I'd hate to go back and re-eq a song because of something I heard in WMP.
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 09:24:45 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: corrupted

    I can't say it's ever happened, but every couple weeks I check all of those settings just to make sure I don't mess with my ears. I get paranoid about things like that... I'd hate to go back and re-eq a song because of something I heard in WMP.

    OTOH, your audience might have all that junk enabled.

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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 09:34:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Mod Bod


    ORIGINAL: corrupted

    I can't say it's ever happened, but every couple weeks I check all of those settings just to make sure I don't mess with my ears. I get paranoid about things like that... I'd hate to go back and re-eq a song because of something I heard in WMP.

    OTOH, your audience might have all that junk enabled.

    Oh, agreed... but if I listen back and all of a sudden there is way too much low end, I'll possibly think that I screwed up my master EQ or something... it's just "different" than it was before I exported.
    I have pretty good flat response out of my monitors and I'm very used to them, something like an unexpected EQ or compressor from WMP usually stands out like a sore thumb!
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 10:44:54 (permalink)
    Does Windows media have stuff like this in the burning department?
    I recently had to purchase Pyro because Windows media was raising my levels and clipping my recordings when used as a burning program.

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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 11:14:43 (permalink)
    Sort of... it has a "normalize" feature (and possibly others) that can change your audio just prior to burning...
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 11:23:30 (permalink)
    I'm really careful about this stuff. I use a laptop to DJ live with, and after a few screw ups of this sort, I got into really good habits. Everything is always set completely flat.
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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 11:29:42 (permalink)
    Yup, been there done that. The EQ in Media Player is not the VC-64 by any stretch, in fact I just leave it alone.

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    RE: Easy Bone Head mix screw up 2006/11/30 12:04:06 (permalink)
    iTunes on the PC did it to me - I could hear a tiny bit of clipping when playing through I tunes, but not Sonar or WMP. Turns out the graphic eq was set to a 4 db boost around 2KHz, and I guess iTunes has no limiter, so it just clipped. Bothered me for weeks before I found it.

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