Sonitus vs. Pantheon

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darylcrowley
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2006/11/30 11:40:46 (permalink)

Sonitus vs. Pantheon

I've been using the Sonitus reverb, I like the sound, lots of control, it sounds great.

The Lexicon reverb however sounds very "tinny" (as in tin can). I know the Lexicon is highly touted but I get less than desireable tone out of it. Any ideas?

Also, I haven't figured out how to use the Perfect Space to full effect, are there any web references on using Perfect Space?

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    John T
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 11:43:11 (permalink)
    I find the sonitus is more user friendly, and the presets give good starting points, whereas the presets on the Pantheon mostly suck. You can get good results out of it if you spend enough time messing around. But I've come to the conclusion that the only thing the sonitus hasn;t got is a big brand name; it's actually an excellent reverb. I use it a lot.

    Perfect Space, I've only just started messing with myself, so no real ideas.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 11:51:48 (permalink)
    I tend to use the Sonitus, Perfect Space, and Kjaerhus reverbs more often than the Pantheon. However, I think that much of my bias stems from the presets on the Lexicon, which I find rather objectionable for the most part. Try playing around with the parameters and you will probably find that the settings just need to be tweaked to your liking.

    I don't know of any specific resources dedicated specifically to using Perfect Space; however, check out Noisevault.com for good overviews of using convolution reverbs. It also has many free impulses available to download.

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 11:56:04 (permalink)
    Yep, the pantheon presets aren't all that great... but who cares about presets.
    It's a nice reverb now and then, but I find Sonitus more reliably suitable. It covers the broad range of reverbs.

    Perfect Space is a gem... a VERY useful reverb with spectacular results. I don't know if a real Perfect Space tutorial exists, but it's a "convolution reverb". You can probably find information about it on the web. It's an extremely natural sounding verb, and a well built plugin.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:07:18 (permalink)
    The Pantheon doesn't cut it for me either. The presets suck and even spending time tweaking the hell out of it hasn't produced results that blow me away. After getting the UAD-1 Plate 140, I'm very hard to please in the reverb department. Perfect Space is the only other 'verb I reach for if the Plate doesn't give me what I'm after.

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:08:24 (permalink)
    I currently use Sonitus and like it. I also have SIR (free convolution reverb that uses the same impulse files as Perfect Space). I would like to hear from someone that has compared SIR to PS sonically. Do they sound the same? If not, what is the greatest difference?

    Thanks,

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:10:17 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Poco

    I currently use Sonitus and like it. I also have SIR (free convolution reverb that uses the same impulse files as Perfect Space). I would like to hear from someone that has compared SIR to PS sonically. Do they sound the same? If not, what is the greatest difference?

    Thanks,

    Poco

    I was going to ask that same thing... SIR's interface looks nice.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:14:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Poco

    I currently use Sonitus and like it. I also have SIR (free convolution reverb that uses the same impulse files as Perfect Space). I would like to hear from someone that has compared SIR to PS sonically. Do they sound the same? If not, what is the greatest difference?



    From Voxengo's website:

    "Pristine Space was mainly created for impulse reverb perfectionists: it does not implement various `combo' approaches which try to save CPU cycles by creating a synthetic reverb tail instead of performing a full convolution. Because such approaches in many cases give unsatisfactory results if you expect them to sound exactly like your original reverb impulse sounds, we have decided not to use them."

    SIR does use less CPU than PS, which tends to make me believe that it does create a synthetic tail rather than a full convolution. (Perfect Space uses Voxengo's Pristine Space convolution engine IIRC).

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:20:56 (permalink)
    I think they may be referring to GigaPulse. Why would they worry about competing with a free product? If any of you have both (PS and SIR), let me know how they differ in sound. I would like to use Sonitus on individual tracks, and an impulse reverb for mastering. I will but one if it sounds better than what I have gotten for free (especially since SIR uses ALL the same impulses as the others).

    Thanks,

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    John T
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:50:15 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Boogie

    The Pantheon doesn't cut it for me either. The presets suck and even spending time tweaking the hell out of it hasn't produced results that blow me away. After getting the UAD-1 Plate 140, I'm very hard to please in the reverb department. Perfect Space is the only other 'verb I reach for if the Plate doesn't give me what I'm after.

    Ha... funny you should say that. Plate reverb is about the only thing I regularly use the Pantheon for, I think it's great for that.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 12:50:31 (permalink)
    Lexi has tone control, no ?
    I use that for overall everything mix.
    PS is another good one to use for an overall mix 'verb


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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 13:09:26 (permalink)
    I don't understand what happened with the Pantheon.
    Lexicon are reverb wizards and to put out a product with presets this bad doesn't make any sense.
    I recoil every time i load it up. It's a real "what the ?"

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 13:14:57 (permalink)
    Glad to see I am no the ony one who doesn't like the Pantheon. I can get some decent verbs out of it, but most every time I hear it in the mix I HATE the sound of it. I don't think I've ever actaully kept it in a single mix. Surprising for a reverb with a Lexicon name on it. I like the Sointus Reveb quite a bit. I use often for secondary and backing tracks, and sometimes for prominent tacks as well. Its also very CPU freindly, which is incredibly important when you're building large projects!
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 13:18:18 (permalink)
    ...not a big Pantheon fan either. It's got a few types of reverb sound (mostly weird FX/ambience stuff) that are unique; but overall I like Sonitus MUCH better.

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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 13:22:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: John T


    ORIGINAL: Boogie

    The Pantheon doesn't cut it for me either. The presets suck and even spending time tweaking the hell out of it hasn't produced results that blow me away. After getting the UAD-1 Plate 140, I'm very hard to please in the reverb department. Perfect Space is the only other 'verb I reach for if the Plate doesn't give me what I'm after.

    Ha... funny you should say that. Plate reverb is about the only thing I regularly use the Pantheon for, I think it's great for that.


    Have you ever heard the Plate 140 on any of your tracks?

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    John T
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 13:32:11 (permalink)
    Well, no, maybe I should check it out.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 14:44:26 (permalink)
    Add me to the list of Pantheon avoiders. Never got a decent sound out of it and couldn't be bothered to try any harder than I did.
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    RE: Sonitus vs. Pantheon 2006/11/30 15:19:25 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Poco

    I currently use Sonitus and like it. I also have SIR (free convolution reverb that uses the same impulse files as Perfect Space). I would like to hear from someone that has compared SIR to PS sonically. Do they sound the same? If not, what is the greatest difference?

    Thanks,

    Poco


    PerfectSpace is realtime (set PS latency to 64) while SiR isn't. You can't record live with SiR because it doesn't compensate latency.

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