Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound?

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2006/11/30 19:49:29 (permalink)

Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound?

Apologies if this is dumb, but I searched the forum and the help files and cannot find an answer.

In earlier versions of Sonar (4, 5PE), if I was playing my guitar into Sonar and needed to switch to Notepad to view chords or tabs or whatever, I could open Notepad on top of Sonar without any interruption in sound and continue recording. In other words, Sonar would continue to record even when it lost 'focus'.

With Sonar 6, Sonar MUST have the focus in order for me to be able to record. Is there a setting in the Aud.ini file or somewhere that will enable Sonar to record even if it's not the 'focused' application?

I checked my audio settings between 5 and 6 and they seem pretty much the same.

Anybody know how to change this?

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    John
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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 20:22:13 (permalink)
    Don't quote me on this but Sonar 5 has the same behaviour I think.
    It is a most unfortunate problem.

    It could have been 6 that did this I am using the demo. I just can't remember.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 20:24:18 (permalink)
    What kind of sound card are you using?

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 20:27:47 (permalink)
    Apologies if this is dumb, but I searched the forum and the help files and cannot find an answer.


    That's ok, Jim .. not dumb at all and you did your "homework" .. come on, we have no problem with YOU posting once in a while

    back to the topic.. i see what you mean but -

    With Sonar 6, Sonar MUST have the focus in order for me to be able to record


    Here it works when using Alt+Tab to the other program or by clicking on the Sonar tab on the taskbar..then it shows what's "behind" Sonar so all you gotta do is to prepare the other app (notepad for example) in advance.

    True - when you launch a new app and Sonar is losing the focus that way all the input monitoring becomes silent and Sonar doesn't output any sound.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:16:23 (permalink)
    Ok.

    Actually my first post was incorrect. If I am recording, the transport is moving and the track armed for record, I CAN switch focus and still get sound in Sonar 6.

    But if I'm not recording, say just practicing through Sonar (which I do all the time) or tuning or whatever, Sonar MUST have the focus in order to produce sound.

    Sonar 5 does not need the focus.

    I can sit with Sonar 5 open and do whatever, open other apps, surf the web, doesn't matter. It will always produce sound as long as I have input monitoring turned on.

    For instance, I could type this post in Sonar 5 while strumming my guitar (with my elbows I guess ) and still get sound from Sonar 5. Not so with 6. Same Sound Card (M-Audio Audiophile USB), same daw (Sony Vaio), same everything.

    I was just wondering if there's a way to change the behaviour in 6 so it works just like 5.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:24:09 (permalink)
    options\audio

    uncheck share audio drivers

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:26:24 (permalink)
    Ok. Actually my first post was incorrect. If I am recording, the transport is moving and the track armed for record, I CAN switch focus and still get sound in Sonar 6. But if I'm not recording, say just practicing through Sonar (which I do all the time) or tuning or whatever, Sonar MUST have the focus in order to produce sound. Sonar 5 does not need the focus. I can sit with Sonar 5 open and do whatever, open other apps, surf the web, doesn't matter. It will always produce sound as long as I have input monitoring turned on. For instance, I could type this post in Sonar 5 while strumming my guitar (with my elbows I guess ) and still get sound from Sonar 5. Not so with 6. Same Sound Card (M-Audio Audiophile USB), same daw (Sony Vaio), same everything. I was just wondering if there's a way to change the behaviour in 6 so it works just like 5.


    Yep that clears it up. I agree with you on this. This is more in keeping with what I recall.

    This is not progress for S6 to act this way.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:29:42 (permalink)
    xackly,

    That did it. Thanks so much.

    To be honest, I thought I had originally checked that box to try and solve the problem.

    But I guess not.

    Thanks everyone.


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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:41:53 (permalink)
    options\audio uncheck share audio drivers


    But don't we need that for Sound Forge to work with Sonar from the tools menu?

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 21:51:56 (permalink)
    IF you have limited ASIO channels, and the other app won't work with WDM. SF used to use windows drivers.

    Like for my Output, I have 2 ASIO channels defined in Sonar(monitor and headphone), and disable the rest in Sonar, this leaves the rest for other apps.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 22:06:33 (permalink)
    That is a work around. I have 10 in and 10 outs. But I want to be able to use all of them in both apps.

    I thank you for the tip but I see a real conflict here. I wonder if this was also true in S5?

    It is only a small problem after all. I should not be reading the Sonar forum while I am using Sonar.

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    RE: Sonar 6 must have focus to produce sound? 2006/11/30 22:31:44 (permalink)
    Yes, it is only a small problem, but can be a big annoyance. I only noticed it because I use this particular DAW to practice on. No real production happens here, just fooling around. In my studio, I would never have noticed it.

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