Looking for someone to mix a song

Hi all,

I'm looking for someone with experience on mixing to mix one of my song.
I'm going to learn by what you did and I'm going to use this as a reference to mix my other song.
I know a litle on panning but I need help with EQ, reverb thing like that. I need a diferent point of view from mine.

It's a Country Music song in French with vocal, back vocal, accoustic guitar, lead guitar, Steel guitar, violon, piano and midi drum convert to audio. I'm doing this for fun so I'm looking for someone who is going to do this for fun.

I have high speed and I wish to send all the file via msn.

Thanks!

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Franco,

Some things to keep in mind along with this idea of learning by seeing someone else's mix settings:

1. In order to be able to tell what they did, you and the mix engineer must have the exact same plugin effects installed the same way. So you will want to make sure that both parties are exclusively using built-in Sonar effects from a default installation, preferably from the same version of Sonar (or whatever program you use). Otherwise, when you try to open their mix, your version of Sonar won't recognize the effects!

2. It is very likely that someone on these forums will be glad to do a mix for free for you. However, it is also very likely that person will also be a beginner to some degree, someone who does their own music for fun, and not a professional engineer. So you might end up with a mix that maybe isn't really using the best techniques. That said, there's certainly nothing wrong with swapping ideas with other amateurs, just be careful to take it with a grain of salt.

3. If you want to make better mixes, it is very important to understand the theory and the technique, and not simply to copy the same settings for every song. Even if you always use the same instruments in every song, the settings may be quite different.

For instance, if a song is in a different key, then individual instruments will occupy different frequency ranges and call for different eq settings. If one song has a hard-driving, uptempo feel, then it will probably have very different dynamics and call for different compression settings than a slow, mournful ballad. Likewise, a slower song will usually require quite different reverb settings than a fast song will.

Unfortunately, there is no "magic recipe" of effects that makes for a good mix every time. If there were, we wouldn't need to have knobs on the effects! So it is still important to learn how to hear the effects of compression, and to learn how to use equalizers to sculpt the sound, and so on.

Cheers.

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Well that's fine, Franco--In your original post you did say, "...I'm going to learn by what you did..." And that's not a bad starting point, though it could be difficult to really learn without a lot of careful studying. Just now you said, "...I prefer to give the job to someone else and keep my time to wrote song and make great music instead..."--Hummm, now that's a bit different.

All of us would love to spend all our studio time writing music, but the very nature of a home studio is that we need to get proficient at all aspects of creating music. We need to learn as much as we can, because nobody is going to care about our own music as much as ourselves--we need to learn to get it across to an audience the best way possible.

It's not going to work to skip the studying and think other people are going to do all the work you're too impatient to do. It's your own music at stake---I think you'll catch on to the truth of what I'm saying as time goes by.

Randy
rbowser

ORIGINAL: Sonic the Hedgehog



To succeed in this industry - whatever the music may be - you need to be extremely flexible. You need to be the artist, the manager, the PR man, and the recording engineer - all at once. Of course, we can't be excellent in everything, but we can better certain weak points.

Yep,that was the point I was making in my last post.I,ve come to the conclusion though,thats its just not possible to be a great engineer,a great song writer,and a great manager all at once !!Better to work on your strong points and find others (a team) who can compensate for your weak points,than to try and be Superhuman !
I,ve only learned that recently....I think to some degree that whatever we choose to do in life,we,ll ALWAYS need other people around.I think thats music gets a lot easier when we stop wanting just for ourselves..
cheers,
kev

Hi,
I know what you mean...it can't hurt to strive towards independance,and I realise that for a lot of people theres just not the choice.Speaking for myself though,I know my compositions are much richer when I'm not concerned about the engineering / sound.When I can focus purely on the musial content and the arrangement.Thats my way anyway...it might not fit for everyone,but it works for me !
Cheers,
kev

That's fine, Kev--I'm just saying that the nature of a project studio, a home studio is that a musician learns how to produce his music. He/she learns that a great deal of the art of writing music is in the production of it, not just in the composing--in fact, the two can become inseperable.

Randy
rbowser

ORIGINAL: rbowser
He/she learns that a great deal of the art of writing music is in the production of it, not just in the composing--in fact, the two can become inseperable.
Randy
rbowser

I think you might be getting your 1s and 0s crossed with your quavers here Sure production can help a musicians ideas to come across more effectively..but since when did a musician need a computer in order to write music ? All the music that has been created before the first Atari came along can be just written off then huh ? The partnership of music and production is only possible if we 'forget' that music once existed on its own tracks.To say they're, inseperable is overlooking it's history,and overlooking it's identity.
I sold my first tracks to a Major Publisher with about two months of production knowledge under my belt.The idea that people need to be a strong musician and a strong producer, in order to be successful is in my experience just simply not true.
If you,re a great producer,a great engineer and a great pr,then hats of to you rbowser !!!!I wish you every luck in what you,re doing...
Kev

ORIGINAL: rbowser

--!!--Good heavens, Kev, I didn't mean to push your buttons!

Hey sorry rboswer if went a bit AWOL !!You have made some excellent points,and seem like a nice guy...sorry I came across as harsh.Maybe one day I'll be more into the production process,but for now ummm no way,just not the time.
Anyway all the best to you !
Cheers,
kev

In my experience I find it hard for anyone to give me the results that I want! Even paying for it!!
Its a difficlut road but I will learn as much and master as many aspects of music as possible. Writing, composition, arranging, engineering, business side, art, etc! It can be done!!