lylesalive
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Firepod and X1 Audio popping
Hi all,
Im a new user to Sonar x1 and am having audio popping issues. It appears that the audio is distorting when recording, even though my meter is well below red. I could set my input to 18db and still when the guitar part gets a little louder I will experience a pop. Unfortunatly this also happens at random during playback. My latency is set to 4ms, sample rate 44.1, and 16bit both in my Firepod asio panel and in sonar. Could this be some form of digital distortion?
I was also thinking that it could be a graphics card issue. I am using a Radeon HD4850 512mb card. I was thinking it could be when my meter jumps that the graphics card is struggling. I was told however that it should be able to handle a any DAW as it is a fairly decent card.
I know many people have had firepod issues in the past, as in, as soon as they replaced it all their troubles disappered. I am running windows 7 64bit, X1 64bit and all drivers are up to date.
Any ideas before I a) replace my graphics card b) replace the firepod or c) replace both,
Lylesalive.
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:13:34
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Graphics cards can cause lots of problems for audio, even high end ones but i think your problem is you latency setting, try something higher.
I have my firepod set 24 ms latency and thats good for most situations...
You dont need to have it set low with the firepod because it has a direct mix featurefor input monitoring, its the knobon the right marked mix... put it in the centerandyou should be fine, also the mix knob may be causeing your problem as well ifyou have it set completly to one side or the other if you have all they way to the left you input may be clipping in the firepod but not on the recorded track, if you have all theway to the right it may be clipping on play back..
hope thishelps..
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:17:38
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Also i would suggest you use theasio driver if your not already..
And record at 24bit cause this will give you more headroom...
And there is the possibility that your firepod is just old.. ive had mine for over 6 yearsnow and the firewire connector is getting loose, thiscauses pops and also turns the firepod off completly...
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:22:58
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VigilantSound
Also i would suggest you use theasio driver if your not already..
And record at 24bit cause this will give you more headroom...
And there is the possibility that your firepod is just old.. ive had mine for over 6 yearsnow and the firewire connector is getting loose, thiscauses pops and also turns the firepod off completly...
Until he fixes the issues he presently has moving to 24 will just cause more problems. Also 24 bit really doesn't have more "head room", it has more bottom room and one can easily make comparable recordings in 16 bit.
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:28:03
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1010: Do you record in 16 bit?
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:29:08
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Thanks for the replies guys,
You may have hit the nail on the head VS because I have input monitor sat all the way to the right. I will centre it tomorrow and hopefully that solves the issue,
Many thanks, I will post the results,
Lylesalive.
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:29:47
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1010: Do you record in 16 bit?
Nope, but it's because I'm anal not because it doesn't sound just as good as 24 bit.
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:29:55
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Intel Quad Core 2.8Ghz Radeon HD4850 4 Gigs Ram Firepod Sonar X1a
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:37:04
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Cool, let us know how it works and if it does stop the popping i would recomendrecording in 24 bit that way you can be anal and get more bottom end like 1010...
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 20:43:46
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VigilantSound
Cool, let us know how it works and if it does stop the popping i would recomend recording in 24 bit that way you can be anal and get more bottom end like 1010...
Now, why would a file with 10db more room above the noise floor (which incidentally you don't use with the music you make) have more "bottom end"?
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 22:04:25
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Re:Firepod and X1 Audio popping
2011/01/28 22:17:30
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Bottom room, then, 1010.
But that really isn't true either. The real difference between 16 bit and 24 bit is around 20db above digital black. Digital black is actually below the S/N of your analog hardware and if you are actually recording expect the noise floor to be somewhere around say -70db which is still well within the dynamic range of 16 bit. Now, if the bits are exactly the same (and they are) and the extra 20 lie below the noise floor (which is inaudible in most cases) why do we need to use 3x the resources to record at 24 bit? This is without considering that when people record in 16 bit they record close to 0 (which is easy with a little practice) and I have seen a lot of people recommend recording 24 bit at around -12. That makes it around 10 db difference under the noise floor. All of this has nothing to do with bass, or low end or anything else because the bits are exactly the same.
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