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2014/10/30 21:58:38 (permalink)

First Rehearsal Tomorrow...

Let me count how long it's been since I've even just played with someone - other than that one time when we were both bloody drunk five years ago... Ah, right - 15 years!
 
But my wife and I have our first formal rehearsal tomorrow. :\
 
When we talked about gigging, I thought: alright, the more people on stage, the better - I'll just stand behind amps and keys somewhere on the stage, turn the volume on my amp down, and act as a musical director, pulling the strings...
 
Because that's the only thing I'm sure of, in all humility - how it must sound.
 
So far, the future band members I've met could wipe the floor with me.
Back and forth. Really.  
 
All I have on them is that I'm bigger than they are and married with the singer. That's it.
 
The bass player is like the equivalent of John Paul Jones - multi-instrumentist, proficient in a wide variety of genres, a very capable engineer and producer, who's played professionally for years. And the sweetest guy ever. I'm sure he can play guitar better than I can... In his sleep.
 
Man, I feel like a fraud. I know we all do - my wife tells me she did for most of her career. Hans Zimmer still feels like a fraud. But I AM a fraud. lol
 
Plus, I'm not sure I've ever been on a stage sober - not after the music school Christmas concert disaster, anyway.
 
In Logic and Pro Tools, I know I am good. I am confident. It can be learned. Onstage? Forget it. I used to smash my guitars to take the focus off of me and hide my discomfort.
 
What's even more awesome is that the first live performance should be just the 2 of us. :/
No hiding for me, there...
 

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/30 22:25:27 (permalink)
Good luck, man.
That's why I don't perform live. In my studio, I have my comfort zone, and I'm fine.
If someone is watching, I grow 7 thumbs.
You've been waiting too long for this. Take a deep breath, and just freakin' do it. I have faith.

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/30 22:57:32 (permalink)
Relax and have fun I say. Don't focus on yourself but on the moment and the surroundings. Make yourself smile a big smile  It's all in the attitude. Tell yourself "This is going to be good !"
 
 I am very comfortable live. I play way better in front of an audience. I miss it

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/30 23:06:00 (permalink)
I can't do much of anything in front of a crowd except speak. When you really know your material it's not that hard. I used to have a great fear of speaking in public. My chosen career demanded that I be able to speak in front of people. To get over it, I got a part time job teaching at a local college. It worked, but it wasn't easy.
 
Playing music is a whole other story. Plink plink, scrape is about all that comes out of the guitar. I do however have a good friend that's just the opposite. He doesn't do much of anything unless he's on a stage, it's his home and comfort zone. He doesn't even play in front of his wife.
 
My strategy when under pressure is to break the event into small pieces that I can mentally deal with. So my advice to Rain is just learn the material as best you can and go for it. Don't think about the whole gig. Just focus on getting the first song done, then the first set, then the first gig. With practice you'll get used to it and get more comfortable.
 
Enjoy the ride man.

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 08:12:01 (permalink)
How cool must it be to play in a band where the other players are all so much better that you feel they could "wipe the stage" with you?   Look at this as a HUGE opportunity. The only way to really get better is to play with musicians who can teach you new things...and it looks like that's the exact situation you are entering into.
 
Put it this way Rain..... if you were as big of a fraud as you seem to think you are, the other players would have said something about your playing. I don't care how good your wife is, they would have said something about your playing if it was really that average.
 
Now, I have seen and heard the players that are employed as musicians with Cirque.....and if these guys are the ones you're talking about..... hell yeah, I'd be a bit intimidated to play with them as well...... but, depending on the music....with rehearsal time, you can handle it I'm sure.  I would not have any qualms about walking on stage with just about any of the country bands at the pro levels.... a few hours of rehearsal and I'd be ready to go.... The Cirque players...different story.... I'd be seriously intimidated. But they are 2 completely different styles and genre's of music. Most of the "pros" I've met have been really nice folks and very accommodating.
 
So..... about the rehearsal.... go, and be sober. Nothing will blow that opp like showing up intoxicated. Have fun and play some music.....enjoy the jam. Who knows what might come from that jam session/rehearsal.
 
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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 10:43:51 (permalink)
Good luck to you Krist!  it actually sounds fun to me!

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 16:22:21 (permalink)
Most people don't think they're as good as they are--except for a few who think they're better than everyone else.  Have fun and learn from them. 

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 18:22:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/10/31 19:13:23
During my 30 year performing career, I can honestly say that every band member I ever played with was a better musician that me. I hired every single one of them for that reason. It's a band and to me, everyone is there to support the others. Be a PLAYER for the band and everything will work out fine.
 
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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 19:37:52 (permalink)
Rain
All I have on them is that I'm bigger than they are and married with the singer. That's it.

 
Sounds like enough to me. 
 
(You couldn't possibly be worse than Linda McCartney was!  )

 
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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/10/31 20:17:13 (permalink)
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All I have on them is that I'm bigger than they are and married with the singer. That's it.

 
Sounds like enough to me. 
 
(You couldn't possibly be worse than Linda McCartney was!  )




Wanna bet? :P
 
The weird thing is that, as a kid, I always wanted to be on that stage in front of an audience. Every chance I got I'd put something together - whether I was doing vocal impersonations or putting little plays together and forcing my friends to get involved or doing those silly lip synch things - I never could get enough.
 
I also sang in choirs and got picked up year after year to sing the lead in front of the whole school. That's on such an occasion, during the Christmas recital, that I felt the fist sign of growth and hormones - my voice broke right there on the stage.
 
I kept on playing live after that because that's what bands did, you know. Especially in a little town such as mine. But the minute I started writing my own stuff, the stage was no longer an option. That was what making music was all about for me - writing and recording, alone.

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/01 11:45:15 (permalink)
I'm jealous. There's nothing I like better than to be the one trying to catch up with better players.
 
Hey, if the gig pays well I could come down and do keys for you so you wouldn't feel like the biggest faker in the band.


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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/01 14:24:15 (permalink)
Good idea Bit. Send me a ticket and I'll bring my tools and look after the amps. It's that time of year in Canada when we dream about sun ans deserts.

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/01 17:01:48 (permalink)
Other than having to use a capo, things went fine I guess. :)
 
 

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/01 17:15:40 (permalink)
NOTHING wrong with having to use a capo! That's what they're there for!

I'm the same as you, haven't played with other people for years. Forgotten what it's like. I find it much easier playing on stage as a group than playing solo, mind. I could never play guitar and sing solo, never. I hate it when you know the whole room is focused on you and you alone. But for a while I sang the lead part of a barbershop quartet and felt no inhibitions at all. Even if there's just one other player - I did a version of the Ace Of Spades, bluegrass style on banjo with a friend supporting on guitar at an open mic night and the 30 or so people in the room went NUTS when we'd finished, despite what I felt were some catastrophic mistakes in my ridiculously intricate solo break (what on earth possessed me to think that I could play something that I'd spent weeks practicing, with great difficultly, on stage, up to speed, and probably a little "baked" as well?). Makes you realize that nobody's looking for perfection, and most people probably wouldn't even recognize it if they heard it anyway. So just enjoy yourself!

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/01 17:32:14 (permalink)
In the past, I've pretty much always been pushed in the spotlight by default.
 
 
Last night though, I remembered when I played with those old geezers in a traditional jazz band. That wasn't so bad, I could back away, move to the side of the stage. I can't say I remember much - not that I was drunk or anything, but maybe just that these weren't as emotionally demanding as being the frontman. I focused on the charts in the real book and tried my best to figure how I'd play those odd chord voicings as they came. lol
 
That's the nice thing playing with my wife - she's got enough stage presence and charisma to hold the center of the stage at Radio City Music Hall, so chances are people won't even notice I'm there. :P

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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/03 09:37:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rain 2014/11/03 15:37:43
I love to perform. While I haven't had first hand experience with stage fright or spotlight avoidance syndrome, I have tried to help a number of fellow band members deal with it. 
 
I don't know for sure, but I think that confidence on stage comes from your attitude. If you know your material well and you know that you are able to play it well, you can walk into that spotlight eager to share your talent with an audience. When I'm performing with a band, we are creating a song together. We play off of each other. I'll throw in a fill that prompts the bass to nail that downbeat a little harder and the rhythm guitar locks in just a bit tighter. I'm never worried about how I look to the audience or what they may think of me. I know the material is good. I know that I'm good. The band is creating something new and unique and I'm excited to show it off to the audience.
 
Friends and family will say that this is because I'm an extrovert. I know some of it may be due to personality quirks, but I also think that there's an underlying belief at work. I believe that I'm good at what I do. I believe that I can play those songs in a way that is uniquely mine. I also believe that while my style may not be to everyone's liking, that there is an audience out there who will love what I play. Whether or not this audience gets it, I believe in what I'm doing and it feels great.
 
...but that's just me. 
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Re: First Rehearsal Tomorrow... 2014/11/03 15:52:12 (permalink)
Show and tell was a nightmare for me, starting in high school.
 
In college, I kept the best possible grades all year long (between 95%-98%) but ended up just passing (60%) because I didn't show up for it. I simply refused to do it - systematically, year after year. My teachers were usually appalled by my decision...
 

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