First ever project using Z3ta +2

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2014/10/31 00:49:55 (permalink)

First ever project using Z3ta +2

Hello, I just recently bought Z3ta +2 and I have never in my life even dealt with anything like this. I am currently trying to recreate this theme "The Forest Temple" from Ocarina of Time. (Won't let me put a link because of spam protection(?) Anyway, if you are familiar with it or wish to be just search it up on YouTube.
I was wondering if anybody could let me know if making the rattle-like noise that loops through out the whole tune is possible, by making it sound if not exactly but very close at it sounds in the video using Z3ta +2.
My reason for buying something I have absolutely no clue what I am doing is because I wanted to gain a new hobby and skill. The reason I chose this theme is because it's one of my favorites. If anybody could answer my curiosities or give a new guy a tip towards completing what I chose to be my first task with music making please let me know!
 
Thanks you very much! 
 
PS If this is in the wrong section I apologize.
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    Paul P
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/10/31 09:15:09 (permalink)
     
    Welcome RangerChad.
     
    It might be useful for you to describe your level of expertise in using synths in general so people can talk to you in the appropriate language.  You say you're new to z3ta+2 but are you also new to synth programming ?  Also, what DAW are you using ?
     
    There are a few sound design experts around here that should have a lot more to say than I can since I'm also pretty new to the trade.  I like the particular sound you're looking to reproduce so I'll be reading with interest any comments from others.
     

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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/10/31 13:10:46 (permalink)
    I am completely new to any form of music creation, and I have no idea what a DAW is. So far I have come really close to recreating the rattle-like sound but I feel like no matter what adjustments I make it just isn't near enough and there is something missing.
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 08:24:39 (permalink)
     
    Hey RangerChad, sorry to take so long getting back with this. 
     
    A DAW is a Digital Audio Workstation, a program that emulates a recording studio on your computer. 
    See here for a list of the more popular ones.
     
    Here are a few places to get started with synth programming :
     
    Synth Secrets a long series of articles published in the Sound on Sound magazine :
     
        http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsynthsecrets.htm
     
    How to Make a Noise: a Comprehensive Guide to Synthesizer Programming
    A free e-book which comes with sample programs by Simon Cann :
     
       http://noisesculpture.com/how-to-make-a-noise-a-comprehensive-guide-to-synthesizer-programming
     
    Digital Sound Factory Z3TA2 Sound Design a video on using z3ta+2 :
     
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovre1jS-I0A
     
    That should keep you busy for a while. 
     

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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 13:35:11 (permalink)
    Hi Chad you may also like to post a link in the songs forum lots of peeps there will be only to happy to give sound advice.  You need to make at least 3 more posts before you post active links.  I would also follow Paul's links which are all excellent material. 

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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 14:06:54 (permalink)
    Awesome, this will take me some time to look through lol. When I got Z3ta +2 I also got Cakewalk Music Creator 6 Touch as a package deal, is that also a DAW? Did not see it one the link you sent me so I was just curious. Is there a way to send the sound sample I have created so far without posting it on YouTube to link it in the forums?
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 14:15:02 (permalink)
    You could try soundcloud this is the login page so you can set up an account lots of peeps use it for sound bites even Cakewalk.

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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 19:28:55 (permalink)
    RangerChad
    I also got Cakewalk Music Creator 6 Touch as a package deal, is that also a DAW?



     
    I haven't used it but it looks like a scaled down version of Sonar.
     
    If it can record, playback, include effects and host synths, it's a daw.
     

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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 20:05:30 (permalink)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Syntorial1
     
    Syntorial is cool and it comes with special lessons in Zeta2.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 20:15:05 (permalink)
    I ran the Music Creator 6 for the first time after you said it was, I could very easily just copy the sound in there by playing the whole song in the Creator and high lighting the section then copying it.. However I like the challenge of forcing myself to listen to a loop for hours on end tweaking it here and there haha. I think I have spent 10 hours on this one sound...
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 20:44:29 (permalink)
    Hi Chad and welcome!
     
    I took a listen to the clip, and it's kind of a wood-blocky sound - very delayed.  I would recommend taking a look in the factory content.  since it sounds percussive, start with the percussion category.  the other place to listen for something similar is the "short and plucked synth" category.  I'd in particular take a look at the underwater bells patch.  change the eq on it a bit and play with the filter cutoffs and resonances and turn all three delays on with different syncs - but it sounds triplet-y so experiment with syncs that end in t for triplet.  
    I think this patch in particular is a good place to start from.
     
    This is fun stuff - crazy maddening at times but I haven't found anything I enjoy quite as much!
    Good luck!

     
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/10 21:53:42 (permalink)
    I will check that out, I am going to post what I have done so far in the "songs" section like I was informed to.
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/11 10:25:08 (permalink)
    Welcome, Ranger.  Esp. to the Cake family.  As you have discovered, Music Creator is Cake's intro DAW for recording MIDI and audio and manipulating them (my favorite analogy is the word processor).  Z3TA 2 is Cake's virtual analog (VA) synth, where a few sample wave shapes can be manipulated just like the analog synth of yore.  Soundcloud (and soundclick) are websites where you can post your songs or sounds and others can play them.  You basically have everything you need to create songs and publish them.
     
    As to your sound, you can post links once you've posted 25 ... posts.  That is to help w/ the spam we get on site.  You'll find a lot of good people on the Songs forum.  Most are guitar-based, but they don't bite if you are more synth based.  In fact, even tho they are limited to 6 strings, they still have very good ideas about sound and song structure and performance and the engineering side of things.
     
    I couldn't track down your sound, google kept sending me to game descriptions.  Soundcloud makes it easy for us to go to one place and hear what you are talking about.  Hopefully, you'll get that sorted out.
     
    Most importantly, have ya some fun.
     
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    Re: First ever project using Z3ta +2 2014/11/11 14:33:04 (permalink)
    Yeah, I just need to find out a lot of posts to reply to. Then you can hear what I have done so far to replicate this sound. I feel like I am being a little to ambitious, but that's usually how I am.
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