danbottomburp
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Fixed sound issue but Mic is too quiet !
So i changed driver mode to ASIO to record something and then i have changed it back to MME 32bit for playback . But now everything just sound awful in playback , Like terrible ..a stuttering slow down kind of mess . Sound in other applications is fine . Like media player and websites . What needs to be changed ? It was Buffer size - Under Mixing Latency - Have no idea why it changed but i put it two notches to the right and its all back working fine.. The reason i tried changing driver mode is because when i record with my mic it is so quiet . Its a Behringer C-1u plugged into my Presonus Audiobox - I have phantom power turned on and the input control for mic set too full and it is still quiet unless i hold my in hand and sing directly into it . Can anyone shed any suggestion on why it is doing this ? ? Thanks Dan
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:25:53
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Record and playback in MME mode for it to sound right, or record and playback in ASIO mode for it to sound right. The problem is that you recorded in ASIO and are playing back in MME mode. I think you can be OK if you recorded in WDM and playback in ASIO or vise versa, but MME mode doesn't playback when recorded in one mode and played back in another. Why did you switch back to MME? I recommend ASIO mode, if your audio interface has ASIO drivers. Short answer is: if you record in ASIO mode, playback in ASIO mode. If you record in MME mode, playback in MME. That's how to fix it, or delete the recording and stay in MME mode and record over in MME mode and then playback in MME mode (Which I do not recommend to do unless you have to). Using WDM mode is better than using MME mode! Hope that helps.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:29:42
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Yes thanks i have edited original post .. Can you maybe help in the issue that got me to change in first place .
Currently i need some typoe of adapter to enable me to use my speakers as output connected to the Aduiobox .
So will stick with MME until i get that adapter.
Main issue is Mic is too quiet . Even though input control on Audiobox is at full
Thanks
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:43:27
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Are you sure everything is OK in your signal path, because it's unusual for a mic to be too quiet using the preamps built into an audio interface. Are you trying to connect your mic through a line in input of your audio interface? If so you need a mic preamp if you're gonna connect the mic to a Line In input.
If you're using a built in preamp on your audio interface, and the mic is at full gain and still too quiet, you need an outboard preamp. Unless your audio driver software supplies a gain plug in, in which case you can use a gain plug in to get the mic signal up higher, but it will introduce increased noise.
You can also try to find a freeware gain plug in, but I don't know any. It's better to have an outboard mic preamp. Or use the built in preamp/s on your audio interface, instead of the Line In input/s without a preamp.
Hope that helps.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:51:15
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Yes it is connected to the Line in (a) of my audio interface , The guitar is superb going into Line in (b)
So i need some kind of Mic preamp ? ?
I mean i can hear my vocals and all but it is very quiet .
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:53:54
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You need a preamp to boost the signal when connecting a mic to a Line In input.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:57:26
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I thought that is what the Audiobox was doing ?
Any suggestions on a cheap and cheerful preamp ?
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 14:57:50
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It's a good idea to put your system specs in your signature, so we can be a better help faster.
What exactly is your audio interface? Does it have built in mic preamps? If it does, why on earh are you not connecting your mic to one of them?
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:05:56
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Duplicate post.
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Duplicate post.
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2015/07/18 15:14:02
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:16:29
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The mic preamps on that audio interface should provide a good enough signal. What do the track meter read when you're using the mic? Does it ever go into the red when you're recording with the mic? Can you post a pic of how high your mic signal is (the meter reading) on a track in SONAR when you're recording with the mic and have the mic preamp gain turned up fully high?
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2015/07/18 15:25:35
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:19:56
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 The one above is from when i used a Blue Yeti usb mic which was fine as you can see ! Below is the Behringer through my audiobox 
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:23:06
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Also, did you try swapping the inputs for your mic and guitar to see if your mic is loud enough when swapped?
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:24:13
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Also, did you try swapping the inputs for your mic and guitar to see if your mic is loud enough when swapped?
Not tried that no .
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:28:01
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There is probably something wrong with one of you mic preamps on the Audiobox. Try to put the mic in the micpreamp input you had the guitar in, to see if the signal is better?
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2015/07/18 15:28:01
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 15:37:43
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OK, let me be clear. Are you using a XLR cable to connect your mic, or are you using a TRS (1/4) cable? When the mic preamp input is a dual connector, as the one on the Audio box is, meaning it has XLR or TRS connectivity, with some audio interfaces, the mic preamp only is used if you connect via XLR to the micpreamp input, and the mic preamp function is bypassed to be just a Line In level connection when you connect with a TRS connection. Have you tried the mic in both mic preamps using an XLR cable (not a TRS cable)? EDIT: And does the mic work correctly, being connected to other hardware such as a mixer?
post edited by thomasabarnes - 2015/07/18 15:45:53
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/18 16:12:32
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Your screenshot of the Behringer levels isn't showing for some reason. When you say "too low", how low? Personally I usually allow more headroom than you have with the USB mic. Makes summing tracks without overloading busses easier. EDIT. Ah, it is showing now. Forget the above. FURTHER EDIT. Hm. -18dB or thereabouts is a little low, but generally speaking aiming for between 18 and 12dB of headroom when recording at 24bit is pretty much where you want to be. You can always turn it up in Sonar if you need to. The Audiobox preamps may simply not have enough gain to push the level of at least that particular mic any higher. Whether it's worth investing in a seperate preamp or a better mic (which may or may not have higher output) would be the thing to go for is hard to say. As it is that signal level's not unworkable, it just means running your monitoring at higher gain and maybe recording everything else at a lower level as well. The overall mix volume will stack up as more tracks are added in.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 01:10:49
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Are you using a XLR cable to connect your mic...?
I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 06:21:52
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Your screenshot of the Behringer levels isn't showing for some reason.
When you say "too low", how low? Personally I usually allow more headroom than you have with the USB mic. Makes summing tracks without overloading busses easier.
EDIT. Ah, it is showing now. Forget the above.
FURTHER EDIT.
Hm. -18dB or thereabouts is a little low, but generally speaking aiming for between 18 and 12dB of headroom when recording at 24bit is pretty much where you want to be. You can always turn it up in Sonar if you need to. The Audiobox preamps may simply not have enough gain to push the level of at least that particular mic any higher.
Whether it's worth investing in a seperate preamp or a better mic (which may or may not have higher output) would be the thing to go for is hard to say. As it is that signal level's not unworkable, it just means running your monitoring at higher gain and maybe recording everything else at a lower level as well. The overall mix volume will stack up as more tracks are added in.
Yes i can kind of get it to my liking by adding Gain on the Bus . My Blue Yeti Mic is Perfect so i may switch back to that .
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 06:22:49
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thomasabarnes
Are you using a XLR cable to connect your mic...?
I was thinking the same thing.
Yes i am using a XLR cable , Is that wrong ? The mic will only accept a XlR connection . Have i got wrong lead ? I also tried switching it over so Mic is going to Input 2 and Guitar on input 1 , Guitar works perfect in either input . Mic is same in both . Just too low . to me at least . Also while i am replying , Can i ask another question ,I need a adapter to go from back of that audiobox and accept my normal green jack from computer speakers , Their really good speakers. What is the right jack i need ? Many thanks for all the help
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 08:03:35
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What are you plugging the Audiobox into?
I suspect the unit is struggling to deliver 48V phantom power, especially if, for example, you're plugging it into a laptop running on battery power
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 08:32:46
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What your sonar ver.?
You must choise tha ACT tub and open cofig to control surface.
And you must choise the some devises on select the devise's radio button.
The problem is so simple.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 08:37:46
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Your audio interface is what?
Mic volum is so minimum,so you must push up the fantom button on mixer is hardwear.
If you have not the funtom button,You must push up gain of mic volume.
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Re: Sound all gone wrong ! Please help ..
2015/07/19 08:45:04
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What are you plugging the Audiobox into?
I suspect the unit is struggling to deliver 48V phantom power, especially if, for example, you're plugging it into a laptop running on battery power
My gaming PC via usb , Will add my gear to signature now so it makes it easier for help .
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2015/07/19 08:45:38
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What your sonar ver.?
You must choise tha ACT tub and open cofig to control surface.
And you must choise the some devises on select the devise's radio button.
The problem is so simple.
I,m sorry but i do not understand what you are saying .
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