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Fools Errand ( a collab)

This is a collab with a writer from South Africa.....
 
The song is FOOLS ERRAND..... about the plight of poachers and the African Rhino that they are pushing to extinction.
 
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All thoughts and comments are appreciated on the writing and the production.
 
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/24 11:45:33 (permalink)
    Herb, stand up and take a bow.  This poignant song should be heard by everyone.  Neil Young would cry over this.  This may be the best song I've heard all year.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/25 06:38:16 (permalink)
    Your mix sounded perfect on my computer speakers Herb!  Nicely done.  Is Melodyne used on any of the vocals?  Just curious.  Not my normal genre, but I liked your message.
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/25 07:35:18 (permalink)
    Lynn: I am humbled by your comments.   Thank you. I agree, everyone needs to hear this. I did not know, before I started working on this song with Joanne, that the situation with this magnificent animal was so critical. Just the other day, on Drudge, there was a story that there is only one surviving white rhino male in the wild. He has a 24/7 armed escort.
     
     
    Tbosco: Thank you as well for the comment on the clear mix. Yes...Melodyne Editor was used in a few places. I use it manually so I pick and choose what gets corrected and by how much. Both the lead vocals were melodyned in places. All of the harmony and BGV tracks were left natural..... no melodyne. I used it to change something Joane sang.... the part on the bridge was edited....and there was a place where she sang the phrasing a bit off..... I used it to edit the timing. Most of the other places where it was used, it was to correct a slightly off ( a few cents) note.... or to reduce her very strong vibrato on certain notes,  to a more natural sounding level... at least to my ears.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/25 20:37:53 (permalink)
    I love everything about this! Really great song and I love the feel and the vocals are great. I think it might help if the female vocal had a touch less reverb, to my ears she had more than the male vocal . Not a big thing though because I agree with Lynn, may be the best song I 've heard all year too.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/26 00:06:50 (permalink)
    Fantastic job. Love the song, singing and production immensely.  You really nailed it. Beautiful mix and sound. Such an important message.  Wonderful.
     

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/26 02:02:15 (permalink)
    Nice song. I like the drums, pretty nicely mixed. The cymbals and hi hat are a touch flangey. I'd like the vocals up even just a tad.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/26 08:48:52 (permalink)
    Beautiful tune and you two did a really nice job bringing emotion to it. Well done mix and I can't think of anything I would change, except for making the guitar solo a little more up front...
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/27 07:25:39 (permalink)
    teego: It is totally possible that the female vox are wetter.... I will have a look at that. Thanks for listening and observing that detail.
     
    Rimshot:  Yes, I did not know, before I started on this song, as I mentioned to Lynn, I was pretty clueless about the situation of the african rhino.
     
    Emeraldsoul:  This was one of those situations where I was thinking the vox are too loud, then I listen again and they're not loud enough..... the mixing is still not finalized..... I will consider your comments when I set down the the final touches.
     
    Dan:  Thanks.... I too was thinking that but I tend to err on the side of caution..... got it.... crank the solo a few dB.... 

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/27 08:41:55 (permalink)
    The solo way back like it is would be fine if it was effected to sound like it was echoing on a plain. Then you could add some African touches over the top of it...
     
    Just a thought...don't go too crazy, lol.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/30 07:51:02 (permalink)
    dcumpian
    The solo way back like it is would be fine if it was effected to sound like it was echoing on a plain. Then you could add some African touches over the top of it...
     
    Just a thought...don't go too crazy, lol.
     
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    Dan, I opted to bump the solo up a bit and changed a few other minor things..... I have not changed the song file so don't listen thinking it's fixed.

    BUT..... Joanne is working on a video for this and when it is finished, I will post a new thread with a link to the video.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/30 14:24:53 (permalink)
    Beautiful song & excellent mix Herb!! It was a pleasure to listen to on my headphones.....catchy too!! You should be in Nashville :))

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/30 18:51:12 (permalink)
    Good production all around. Pretty harmonies and nice vocals on both parts. Nice message too.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/30 20:56:25 (permalink)
    Mesh: Thanks...actually this song is in Nashville right now.... and it's going to be the title track (I think) on an album to be released very soon in South Africa. Proceeds from the sale of the song and the album will be going to the Rhino Conservation Group there in SA.   We're hoping it makes a big impression and sells well.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/04/30 21:51:09 (permalink)
    Excellent!  Excellent music, excellent mix, and excellent message.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/01 15:51:25 (permalink)
    Thanks Freddy. We're hoping the CD and this song will make a splash in South Africa when this project goes public. The co-writer has a friend who works with the Rhino conservation group there so we got a foot in the door already.
     
    It's a good cause. I hope it sells well and does good for them.....

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/05 17:04:05 (permalink)
    Absolutely beautiful piece of work all the way around. Very nicely done and a great mix.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/06 08:44:04 (permalink)
    Thanks John... the video is in it's final stages of production and should be our before weeks end.... It's going to be good..... take my word for that.... I've seen some of the early versions.....
     

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/09 19:41:31 (permalink)
    Lovely piece of work. I will be listening to this again. Definitely Vocals up a tad please. If I'm being really picky add a de-esser to the female vocals. Clever title and lyrics, catchy, tune is moreish, well done. 

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/09 22:53:13 (permalink)
    Great song and really well recorded.
     
    I loved the different keyboard parts. Good message for us all.
     
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/11 07:34:08 (permalink)
    Mahavishnu & SJA:  Thank you both for listening. Be sure to catch the video that Joanne did for this song.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/12 13:58:19 (permalink)
    Great job on this to the both of you! I have come to expect mixes of a high quality from Herb and I wasn't disappointed on this one!

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/13 07:51:47 (permalink)
    Tim...thanks... I try to do my best.  Be sure to check out the video that Joanne, the other writer did on this.... I think it's also a superb job.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/13 10:40:30 (permalink)
    Brilliant Herb - great message, well performed, excellent mix
    The other singer's voice is a dead ringer for Carly Simon - love it
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/13 11:53:05 (permalink)
    Glad you liked it daryl.... she was a breeze to work with on this.  Watch the video and you can see her singing her lines.
     
    She's working in South Africa to get this song and video licensed to a rhino conservation group that will get the proceeds from the sales of the CD and internet downloads to help the cause.   We are donating 100% of the profits to the rhino conservation group.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/14 12:45:32 (permalink)
    Nice Song Herb also Joanne on those pipes.  Excellent subject matter as well.
     
    What can a say about the mix, well it works here and for that it definitely deserves one of these

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/14 21:25:46 (permalink)
    THanks Wookie.... like I told the others.... check out the video as well.... great footage from Africa.

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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/17 12:02:02 (permalink)
    Maybe it's me today but there is a dullness to the mix to me. A lot of low-mid build up.
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/19 22:37:44 (permalink)
    Wow, Herb...This is great! As your music always is. Glad you're still making music. :) 
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    Re: Fools Errand ( a collab) 2015/05/20 08:06:10 (permalink)
    Bapu.... hummm.... could be?  Have you cleaned your audio cables recently?   Thanks for listening...
     
     
     
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