For all of you hardware synth/drum machine GAS freaks - some psychedelia!

 
And yes, I saw the clothes drying in the background. Good hygiene!

bapu
bored had to stop

You're obviously not a hardware synth/drum machine GAS freak then. 
 
I can spend hours doing what he's doing.  Er, well, I used to anyway... 

Hi,
 
A much more modern "Ash Ra Tempel" and the work that Manuel Gottsching does on his guitar by himself. On occasion he tours with a drummer and the electronics are pre-recorded, but all the albums from the late 70's and 80's with "Ash Ra" are like this, although the guitar is more prominent than the electronics.
 
Still, very nice work. If someone finds it boring, it's a shame that commercial music has taken away some ability to listen to something else, that is not designed to be a pop song. 

Hi,
 
If you watch "I Dream of Wires", you will find the biggest and greatest array of nuts and bots and crazies ... just doing a thing or two with electronics. You would think they are having sex with it sometimes!
 
Heck, at one time it was considered boring and impersonal, but no one is saying that today, after people like Keith took it to the stage and blew your ears off. And a certain Tangerine created dreams with its sounds ... so I have a soft heart for many of those people and how they look at music and experience.
 
Bapu not withstanding ... I wonder if he thought it was boring, because he could not find a bass track ... dude ... add one! It's that kind of music! On the other hand, it was the day of the year ... April 1st

No time today but tomorrow I will give it a listen.

SteveStrummerUK
It's like saying you can't appreciate chicken vindaloo because you also happen to eat pizza.

 
Hmm... How about a chicken vindaloo pizza???  
 

I came back as promised and I enjoyed good stuff, thanks for sharing.

Nice Berlin/French school track that. Well filmed as well, though the fisheye overhead that makes the MS-20 look like it's standing on its side is a bit head-swimming at first.

Not sure about the 808 sounds though, a bit too boomy for me in that setting.

Moshkito
 
Actually it isn't and your attitude (notice your, not you're!) is peculiar defending Bapu....
 

 
Huh? I never mentioned Bapu, or even anything you had to say about him.
 
I didn't (and quite deliberately didn't) quote that part of your post. The part I did quote is the single sentence I was taking exception to, and the content of which I was addressing in my reply.
 

... when the only music you guys talk about and discuss and love, and then create silly comments in any post is the same thing, over and over and over again ... you think you could have, by now, made a comment on any of the other music, but no ... you trash another user instead.

 
Jesus, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You make post upon post 'trashing other users' - in particular passing scathing comments on the choice of music they listen to.
 
I did nothing other than point out that listening to one form of music doesn't prevent one from appreciating another type of music. What you said was deliberately worded to sound disparaging about anyone who doesn't listen to the same music as someone who really 'knows' music. You, in other words. In your opinion, anyway.
 
You haven't raised one single cogent argument to suggest what I said is wrong.
 
So let's have it mush. Instead of running away and reporting me, let's hear your logical reasons for disagreeing with this: "To say that listening to one type of music can somehow diminish one's ability to enjoy another is completely preposterous".
 

At least, I have enough respect for you guys not to do that.

 
But you do exactly that. Ask anyone round here, don't just take it from me. You continually talk down to others, always making it perfectly clear that your choices of listening material are in some way superior to that of others.
 

I like Bapu's work, and yours, but even though AC/DC and that kind of metal stuff does not grab me, I still don't go around saying you guys are stupid ... silly maybe ... but we're all silly in this bus anyway!

 
See, there you go again. You just labelled anyone who listens to "AC/DC" and "metal" as silly.
 
Don't you understand how that comes across as 'superior', pompous even?
 
(And a quick FYI, AC/DC aren't a metal band. Anyone who thinks that clearly doesn't really know what they're banging on about)
 

For my tastes, and I state that all the time, you guys are too centered on commercial music and top ten, to be able to appreciate something different, that is not pop or song oriented. Doesn't mean you are this and that ... just means your ears and sensibilities are aimed somewhere else ... and that's OK ...

 
OK, let's add "presumptuous" to 'pompous' and 'superior' shall we. How the hell do you know what I listen to, or to what any of us listen to? Seriously, I'll happily send you a catalogue of my music collection. At least then any objections you have to any part of it would actually be based in fact.
 

...but to spend your time trashing someone is not cool.

 
Please see my points above. That's exactly how you come across in every other post you make.
 

Be nice for once ... go listen to a few different things. See if you can do Michael Karoli in "Mother Sky" ... see if you can do Egberto Gismonti in "Ballerina" ... and then try a little Jon Mc ... and then come to the table ...

 
Yawn... why do I get the feeling you're just picking obscure stuff out of the air to sound elitist again?
 

.... but going after someone because he happens to like those better than the repetitive and boring rock and roll folks ... is not right.

 
Jesus Pedro, you make this just too easy don't you.
 
Who says that what you listen to is "better". Who makes that judgement?
 
You.
 
But then again, it's always about you, isn't it?
 
Get off your high horse, and maybe enter into the odd discussion every now and again, instead of telling everyone else what they should be listening to.
 
I'm tempted to do something I've never done on these forums, and that's block you. You simply have nothing to say. Nothing positive to add to any thread or discussion. No music to listen to, and no opinions I respect.
 
And if that's showing you "Basic Human Disrespect", then so be it.
 

craigb
I have no problem telling the difference between good music and bad.  If I like it, it's good music. 

jamesg1213
Very true Craig. Music is so subjective and personal, that trying to grade it into 'better' or 'best', or even 'different' (different to what?) and trying to persuade others to your tastes is absolutely futile.

^^^ Exactly.
 
How hard can this be for some people to grasp.
 
We can all offer suggestions to others, as well as listen to music suggested by them. Or we are all free to search around and discover new stuff for ourselves. We are fortunate to live in an age where we can listen to just about any music we want with just a few clicks of a mouse.
 
Some of it we might like, some we might not. But whether we like it or not doesn't make any of it better or worse.
 
I suppose to some extent that an objective argument could be made for how technically proficient a certain piece is. But whether it's 'good', 'bad', something you like or something you don't, will always be in the realm of the subjective.
 
What I would say is that it certainly pays to be open to suggestions. My music collection contains stuff I'd probably never have thought I'd like, and stuff I'd simply never heard of. Thanks to the many (costly ) recommendations from me old mucker James and others, I am lucky to be able to enjoy music that maybe I wouldn't otherwise have been exposed to.
 
And I like to think I may have reciprocated every once in a while
 
 

craigb
Too bad I can't suffer the moronic dolts who don't know what good music is! 

I'm a dolt. I've been 21 for over 42 years now. Pretty soon I'll be going backwards.

Moshkito
 
I just find it strange when someone trashes my sensitivity to music ... I, personally, as is well known here, am not a fan of top ten and  what is considered by many as "commercial music", but it does not mean I do not like or enjoy a song here or there, so seeing Strummy write that, is kinda weird ... but it tells you the level of street noise that some folks revert to, when they do not know, or can relate to what someone else is saying. 
 

I didn't "write that" at all.
 
Are you deliberately setting out to try and put words in my mouth, or are you just too stupid to understand what I actually said.
 
Let me make it clear.
 
I did not mention anywhere in that post anything whatsoever to do with 'commercial music', 'AC/DC', what I consider good or bad music, or what music I like or dislike.
 
Nothing at all in fact to do with anything you keep babbling on about, and subsequently reporting me for.
 
For the love of all you find holy, please read my post again.
 
The only bone of contention I had with what you said previously, and the only point I was replying to (as indicated by the part I actually quoted) is that I considered it to be utter tripe that you suggested that listening to one type of music somehow precludes one from appreciating another type of music, and that the way you decided to make that point was done deliberately to make you appear somehow superior to others.
 
To clarify - I said absolutely nothing about the relative merits of different types of music or artists, so why do you seem to be wanting to pick a fight about this?
 
I appreciate English is not your first language, but please try and read what I actually said, and not infer a meaning or connotation that is clearly not there, nor was it meant to be.