Susan G
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For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
Hi- I need to sell an Xbox 360 4gb console and a (separately purchased, but installed) 250 gb hard drive for it. It was used 2 or 3 times since late November, and is in mint condition. I can get $124.00 for both (they also pay shipping) at Amazon as a trade-in, but they'd issue a gift card that's only redeemable through them. I don't buy or sell much on eBay, but I checked today and a similar console sold for $165 plus shipping (without the hard drive upgrade). It had a starting bid of just 99 cents. If I set a starting bid as high as what I could get for the trade-in + shipping, will that automatically scare folks off? It would be kind of silly for me to sell it for less, OTOH it would be nice to get more, and cash rather than a gift card. Or should I use "Buy it now"? What do you eBay gurus think? The few experiences I've had selling stuff on eBay have been fine, but I'm no expert on the psychology. This case just seems like kind of a crap shoot to me. TIA for any opinions! -Susan
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/03/29 20:02:54
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Susan: I use ebay a fair amount. Getting rid of old stage/audio/lighting stuff and then upgrading. To get an idea of what you can get, search the recently sold items. Then, use a buy it now at the minimum you are willing to accept. Bidding can get you more money for an item if it is rare....the Xbox is not rare. Also, for payment, only accept MO or Paypal. Good Luck
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/03/29 20:14:34
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Setting the minimum bid to $1.00 and running it as a no reserve auction is risky but it is POTENTIALLY the best way to maximize the amount of money that you can make on the item. If your item is truly desirable, running your auction this way accomplishes 2 things … it starts a bidding war and it minimizes the fees that you will have to pay for selling your item through ebay. If you set a high minimum bid or a high reserve there is a likelihood that no one will bid on it or it will not reach the reserve. I frequently use the $1.00 minimum bid and no reserve with great success. Make sure you thoroughly research shipping costs. Usually I figure out what it will cost to ship via Parcel Post to zone 8 and use that as fixed economy shipping to the continental United States. If the shipping cost of your item is reasonable, another risk you can take to increase traffic to the item and ultimately start a bidding war is to offer the item with free shipping Again, these ebay sales tactics are risky!
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/03/29 21:01:38
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I agree with Dave - if you set the initial bid low then you likely will end up with a higher ending bid. if you set it high then people won't bid on it as much and you'll either get NO bids (and thus be OUT the money you still have to pay eBay for the ad) or you'll only get something close to your starting bid. same for reserve. people tend to not bid on items which have a reserve on it. it's just the nature of ebay. but also as dave says, these tactics ARE risky.
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Susan G
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/03/29 23:10:34
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Thanks for the feedback, that helps a lot. The Xbox is definitely not a rare item, although the configuration I have (4gb console + 250gb drive) is a little different from most. Don't know if that's good or bad. It seems like timing is critical, too -- there might be several on sale one week, then a dry spell, which presumably would drive the bidding one way or another. I'm not feeling very brave right now ;), so I might just go with the sure thing and trade it in. OTOH I was a little surprised the one I saw that sold today went for such a high price, and the seller said it was a relist after the first winner didn't pay. It went for about the same price both times. I'll look for some other results over the next day or so. BTW, a friend of mine said it's a good idea to time the auction so it ends on a Sunday evening. I guess that makes sense assuming people have free time then to watch the bidding? Does it matter (generally) if it's listed for 3, 5, or 7 days? Whenever I've bought anything on eBay I've just waited until the end of the auction anyway. I don't really understand why people bid early. Thanks again- -Susan
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Susan G
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/12 13:44:03
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Hi- Well, the Xbox sold, and at a good price. However, the winning bidder started sending me questions after the auction ended that he should have asked before, like whether he could wait a week to pay, and details about what's included even though there's a very detailed description on the item page. He sounds young and like he maybe got in over his head. The next highest bid was only a dollar less and I'm aware of the Second Chance offer, but I don't want to pull the trigger on that unless this guy's gonna bail. Oh, and in one of his messages he said "so i wouldn't have to send it back to you or anything", when the listing says no returns. I've only sold a few things and never had a problem receiving payment. I don't want to be unreasonable and sell it out from under him, but I've got a bad feeling about this. What's a reasonable extension of time to pay, and would you guys ask for a non-refundable deposit or something? It sold for a hair over $200. Thanks! -Susan
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/12 13:57:12
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I always state in my auctions that I expect payment within 3 days of the end of the auction, or a lot of people state that they expect payment immediately. it's not unreasonable to ask that, IMO. I personally would not be interested in waiting a week for the kid's birthday money to come in! besides - if you give him TOO long then the 2nd bidder will have already found another item and won't be interested - he's not required to buy it for his highest bid - it's only an option to him.
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Susan G
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/12 14:15:25
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Hi Reece- "I know" (in my best Craig Ferguson voice ). I didn't specify when I expected payment, but I'll file that away, thanks. I'm writing to him now, and depending on his answer I guess I'll use the Second Chance offer. The least I would take is a deposit to hold it, and a significant one at that. Damn, I thought this had gone smoothly! Who bids $200 and then starts asking questions? He has 100% positive feedback on 14 transactions, so he knows how this works. Thanks! -Susan
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/12 14:21:41
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Susan - yeah, he shouldn't be doing that and you have the right with eBay's rules to refuse to sell to him if he can't pay in a reasonable time. I am pretty sure eBay has a set limit of time you have to give him before you can dispute with eBay that he's in "nonpayment" but I don't remember what it is. I'm thinking that's something like 2 weeks or so. but if you dispute with eBay over him nonpaying then it goes against him poorly and you end up not having to pay the ad fees, think. eBay's rules change all the time, tho, and I've not been using eBay a lot lately. EDIT: and you certainly don't have to hold it for a deposit at all - that's completely up to you, but it's against eBay's policy, IIRC.
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Susan G
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/15 20:47:31
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Well, I've learned a lot about eBay over the past few days -- #1 is that it's totally buyer-centric! The upshot is he wants to cancel 'cause he doesn't have the money. That's fine with me, since I learned that buyers can return stuff (in any condition) up to 45 days after receipt and still get a full refund. So in an extreme case he could use it for over a month, break it, then return it & get his money back. Cool! It was increasingly clear that he didn't understand what he was buying, so I'm happy to cancel. The problem is that if I start the process I have to basically say it's my fault (not as described, I no longer have it, etc.). Has anyone here ever cancelled a sale before? He can leave negative feedback for me, but I can't for him (sellers can't leave anything other than positive or none), and I don't even want to, I just want to get this over with so I can move on. What's the "safest" way to end a transaction like this? This really turns me off to eBay. I didn't realize how weighted in favor of buyers it is. I can see protecting them, but AFAICT there's no protection whatsoever for sellers. None. Thanks- -Susan
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Re:For eBay gurus: Xbox sale opinion question
2011/04/15 22:55:19
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An Xbox? Oh... I thought the title said an X1b ox and looked to see if it was blue like Paul Bunyan's. My bad.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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