Formating to produce cd

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2009/10/17 21:41:27 (permalink)

Formating to produce cd

When having a stereo master in producer 8.I want to copy do disc my projects.I can get them to play on my stereo in the car in mp3 format.But what file type do I use to get the master quality on a car stereo/home stereo playable disc.Is there a special disc type,size,ect record companies use.When I copy the entire wav file to disc.A single project is pretty large and I cant get it to play on a standard stereo.What do the big boys do?
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    spindlebox
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/17 23:34:46 (permalink)
    You want a Redbook Audio formatted disk.  Usually, a program like CD Architect can do that for you.  It takes mastered WAV's and writes them onto CD.  Otherwise, just export yourself some 320kbps MP3's and burn them to disk.


     

     
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/18 00:58:39 (permalink)
    You will want to "export" "what you hear" to a 44.1khz, 16 bit wave file. That is the only format most cd players will accept. Some of the newer players will play mp3, but .wav files are much higher quality. If you have each song separately exported to a wav file, you can use your onboard player to create a song list and burn that to the cd. I use cdarchitect, so I do not know the steps for creating a playlist and burning to cd any other way, maybe some one else can help with that. But, you still need to get that first step, "export" to a wave file.

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/18 02:06:50 (permalink)
    What is a redbook Audio formatted disc.
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/18 09:23:49 (permalink)
    "Redbook Audio specs" are the details needed for proper CD standards, incl. 44.1K, 16-bit, a couple-second intro to Track 1, and a few other items.

    If you've gone to the expense of buying Producer 8, and want to create a CD, I wouldn't waste it all by exporting to MP3 and then burn to desk...  You'll only get 25% of the original file (16-bit WAVs are 1141K).

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 08:37:32 (permalink)
    Since we're not talking about professionals, there's no need for you to buy CDArchitect or Sound Forge. Nero or any normal CD-burning program does all you need to get done. After you've learned the basics you can re-think whether you need something or not.

    If one isnt even familiar with wav-files, he's got such a long way to go, that CDArchitect would be a waste of money.

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 10:22:31 (permalink)
    fguiles


    When having a stereo master in producer 8.I want to copy do disc my projects.I can get them to play on my stereo in the car in mp3 format.But what file type do I use to get the master quality on a car stereo/home stereo playable disc.Is there a special disc type,size,ect record companies use.When I copy the entire wav file to disc.A single project is pretty large and I cant get it to play on a standard stereo.What do the big boys do?


    Just select audio CD in your CD burning software. The software will know what to do.
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 14:04:46 (permalink)
    I've got a related question.  I just tried doing this last night.  I tried it using iTunes, but that converted them to mp3's.  The only place I have to select audio CD, it gives me the choice of Windows Media Player.  Will that convert them to mp3's too?

    I finally just copied the files from a folder on my HD onto a CD and they're still wav files, but it won't play in a stereo.  At least not the stereo I tried. 
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 14:43:50 (permalink)
    Mamabear


    I've got a related question.  I just tried doing this last night.  I tried it using iTunes, but that converted them to mp3's.  The only place I have to select audio CD, it gives me the choice of Windows Media Player.  Will that convert them to mp3's too?

    I finally just copied the files from a folder on my HD onto a CD and they're still wav files, but it won't play in a stereo.  At least not the stereo I tried. 

    You need to get some decent CD burning software. Nero is the best of the low priced ones.
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 16:11:26 (permalink)
    OIC. Thank you! 
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/19 23:49:40 (permalink)
    Mamabear, you can do it in iTunes.
    First you'll need to DnD the WAVs into the main area of the iTunes GUI.  You might need to re-input the Artist/ Album names at this point, but if you highlight them all and right-click to select "get info" you can name them all at once.
    I've found that it helps to drag the files into a Playlist just for the CD.  Then right-click the playlist name and click "Burn Playlist to Disc."

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 07:38:00 (permalink)
    Thanks Matt.  I tried that, but it converted them to mp3's.  :-(
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 09:19:55 (permalink)
    I don't have iTunes (because I don't like it on my system - too many memory resident programs running in the background from it), but there should be a setting somewhere in the options that allow you to change from mp3 to wav files for burning to CD.  I know that when I use Windows Media Player I can change that option to either WAV, WMA or MP3.

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 10:44:08 (permalink)
    Janet, Windoze Media Playes USED to come bundled with a copy of Roxio light for burning CD's, I think WMP even saw it as a plugin.

    This is true up to version 9 - I had an awful time with 10 & 11 and vowed never to let either of them near my pc ever again.

    Roxio supports Drag & Drop, not sure about Red Book.

    Although, I did manage to burn a couple of CD's that played in the car, so I guess it must.


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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 21:50:03 (permalink)
    Mama, you sure you chose "burn playlist" and not "import"?
    Check your settings under Preferences/ Import settings in case you are importing by mistake.  change that setting from MP3 to WAV and you'll be more likely successful if there's a communication gap here...
    (i just checked my itunes to make sure the suggestions are worded properly)

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 22:04:06 (permalink)
    No, I chose 'add file to library.' Aren't those settings you're referring to only for importing music from a CD and not from my HD?  
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 22:14:36 (permalink)
    Actually, it looks like when I did add those wavs to iTunes, they're still wavs.  But when I burned them to a CD, they converted to mp3's.  I can't find a place to change that setting.  Perhaps it's not possible in iTunes though.
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/20 22:16:04 (permalink)
    Oh, and I didn't mean to ignore your answers, B_J and Reece.  Thanks for that.  My husband thinks he has a copy of Nero, so I'm going to wait and try that actually.  I should try WMP too though.  I'm just not as familiar with it.  
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/21 10:12:00 (permalink)
    Aha!  You're creating a DATA disc, not an AUDIO one.
    I know there used to be an option to check in the Edit/Preferences window, but it doesn't seem to be there on the newest version of the SW.
    It is possible to change somewhere, I don't burn MP3 discs...
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/21 10:26:27 (permalink)
    Even if it plays on a computer?

    Albert thought the reason it won't play on a stereo is that they need to be 16-bit wav files for that.

    Really not trying to be argumentative here--I've just never done this before.  I had no idea it was so complicated. :-) 
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/21 10:39:01 (permalink)
    yes, even if it plays on a computer.  you shouldn't be making data discs - make audio discs.

    but albert is also correct - if you exported your files as 24bit files that won't work.  when you export, change to 16bit, 44100Hz, add dithering (since you're converting from 24 to 16bit) and make them wave files.

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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/21 10:47:52 (permalink)
    OK.  I'm pretty sure I chose 'audio' instead of 'data,' so I'm guessing it's the 16 bit thing.   But I've been wrong once or twice before. :-) 
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    Re:Formating to produce cd 2009/10/23 09:58:29 (permalink)
    The 16-bit thing would also be the culprit.
    Let us know if it works, this one has been vexing me more than most...
     

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