Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few)

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2006/12/23 12:03:06 (permalink)

Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few)

This is a great forum and most of the folks around here are really helpful. What gets me is when people make jerk comments about forum etiquette. I have seen people get blasted for spelling errors, or typing in all caps. What difference does this make? What really got me were some of the comments made to a 14 year old kid discouraging him from asking questions about how to make techo music by telling him "this forum is for pros" or that "this forum is only for sonar software issues". Give me a break guys. Frankly, what makes this forum great is the open willingness to help people make better music.

To the self righteous posters who are so "proffessional" that they feel annoyed by such "improper" questions or mis spelled words, just give us all a break and relax.

This being said, I understand completely that without some type of understood guidlines, forums would be worthless. I am simply talking about people getting blasted for innocent mistakes (minor mistakes that don't take away from anyone's forum experience).

I realize already that this is "off topic" to you haters so spare me. How is this relavent to Sonar? These type of posts litter up an otherwise very pleasant community of nice people.

In the end, who am I to tell anyone what to post. This is just one guys opinion. I would love to know that others think.
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    evansmalley
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:11:47 (permalink)
    I couldn't agree more- and thanks for saying it!
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:17:24 (permalink)
    I agree with you. If anyone has a problem with posts or those who post, take it up with the Forum moderators. It's their job to keep things tidy, not ours. I know of two other forums where moderators move posts to other areas on a consistent basis and no one gets bent out of shape about it. Eventually everyone learns where things should go and it becomes less of a problem. Until then, if this is the kind of Forum that CW intended then let it be.


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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:19:27 (permalink)
    Hey uptoolate,
    it used to enrage me when i first started visiting here but now i find the intolerant hot-heads quite funny, it's just a shame that someone's feelings may get hurt in the process and i honestly don't think this is taken into consideration.
    People just don't consider the consequences of their actions these days and less so when they don't have to look someone in the eye.
    The vibe here is mainly good hearted, just try to focus on that.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:19:31 (permalink)
    Oh boy...here we go again...

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:24:13 (permalink)
    All caps posts do annoy me quite a bit though, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT RATHER HARD TO READ
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:28:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

    All caps posts do annoy me quite a bit though, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT RATHER HARD TO READ


    o.k.

    good point
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:33:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: uptoolate


    proffessional

    mis spelled

    guidlines

    relavent





    It is professional misspelled guidelines and relevant.


    Sorry, I couldnt help it! I hope you know that I'm joking.....I agree with you.



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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:41:38 (permalink)
    Ooooooooooooooohh me too, me too, ME TOO! I wanna tell him what he did wrong too.

    He missed an apostrophe in the statement: This is just one guy's opinion.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:44:01 (permalink)
    I agree!

    ORIGINAL: uptoolate
    What really got me were some of the comments made to a 14 year old kid discouraging him from asking questions about how to make techo music by telling him "this forum is for pros"


    LOL. This one cracked me up. If ever there was a "pro" forum, this is certainly not it. This is a software gripe forum for people who don't want to read their manual. I must say that I'm very entertained by it though and it is what keeps pulling me back. I love it when someone asks a question and you have people posting replies or suggestions that have absolutely nothing to do with the problem the OP is having-- just the obligatory: "Defragment your hard drive", or "Try reinstalling!"-- thanks a bunch!

    Usually the format goes like this:

    1. Original Post
    2. Worthless reply
    3. Insult to OP
    4. Another worthless reply
    5. An actual solution
    6. Another worthless reply
    7. My post commenting on the chaos
    8. Another actual solution
    9. More insults
    10. Rinse and repeat

    I love these forums!
    post edited by dontletmedrown - 2006/12/23 13:07:42
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:47:10 (permalink)
    WADDA YA MEEN ITS NOT PROFESHINAL!!!?? Weez as PROFESHINAL as they comes. Jest ASK us.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:47:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ogre


    ORIGINAL: uptoolate


    proffessional

    mis spelled

    guidlines

    relavent





    It is professional misspelled guidelines and relevant.


    Sorry, I couldnt help it! I hope you know that I'm joking.....I agree with you.






    Joke taken. No Harm
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 12:48:15 (permalink)
    Amen.

    Smugness cracks me up. It is so transparent. It really makes certain types of people feel really good to criticize, demean, scold, embarrass, etc. In some twisted way they feel like it validates their 'superiority'. They can really let it shine on the Internet too (where they don't have to be a typically cowardly as they are in real life)!
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:06:05 (permalink)
    First of all, I totally agree with the prevailing sentiment in this thread.
    But, as someone who is misunderstood often enough myself, I'd like to point out that many comments are misread.
    The above quoted response to the 14 year old regarding this being a pro forum is a good example, I think. Is there really any malice there? Isn't it possible he was just being informative? I took it as, 'hey, you're not in the best place for what you want'.
    The way most people write is not very reflective of how they speak, or their disposition. It's really hard for most people to convey personality with letters.
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:23:17 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dontletmedrown

    I love it when someone asks a question and you have people posting replies or suggestions that have absolutely nothing to do with the problem the OP is having-- just the obligatory: "Defragment your hard drive", or "Try reinstalling!"-- thanks a bunch!

    Usually the format goes like this:

    1. Original Post
    2. Worthless reply
    3. Insult to OP
    4. Another worthless reply
    5. An actual solution
    6. Another worthless reply
    7. My post commenting on the chaos
    8. Another actual solution
    9. More insults
    10. Rinse and repeat

    I love these forums!


    Many times i've read a reply to my question and wondered if the poster actually read the post or just guessed what i may have written based on the thread title.
    This has happened with concise one line questions.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:32:31 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: opaque slogan



    Many times i've read a reply to my question and wondered if the poster actually read the post or just guessed what i may have written based on the thread title.
    This has happened with concise one line questions.


    This happened just recently to me with Native Instruments support.

    I sent them a support ticket about the Guitar Rig 2.2 VST not remembering settings when a project was reloaded and that the DXi version was fine, but lost settings when dragged and dropped.

    The answer was "We recommend you use the VST version."!!!

    Um, ok.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:34:30 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dontletmedrown

    Usually the format goes like this:

    1. Original Post
    2. Worthless reply
    3. Insult to OP
    4. Another worthless reply
    5. An actual solution
    6. Another worthless reply
    7. My post commenting on the chaos
    8. Another actual solution
    9. More insults
    10. Rinse and repeat

    I love these forums!


    Or detours into a zig-zagging argument about something entirely unrelated (insulting the insulter, for instance; back and forth, ad nauseam).
    post edited by gnie - 2006/12/23 13:54:11
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:44:38 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Infinite5ths

    Ooooooooooooooohh me too, me too, ME TOO! I wanna tell him what he did wrong too.

    He missed an apostrophe in the statement: This is just one guy's opinion.




    Dagnabit!! I missed one!! The bold is a nice touch! I embellished with red to make the error even more pronounced!
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:47:38 (permalink)
    Hey uptoolate,
    woah! i just read that thread after reading Gnie's remark and he's right, you've got Ognis wrong there.
    I know that guy quite well and he didn't mean that the way you think he did.
    Just thought i should mention it.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:53:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: uptoolate


    ORIGINAL: ooblecaboodle

    All caps posts do annoy me quite a bit though, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT RATHER HARD TO READ


    o.k.

    good point


    At my age it makes it easyer and I can actually hear what people are saying
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 13:55:32 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: gnie

    The above quoted response to the 14 year old regarding this being a pro forum is a good example, I think. Is there really any malice there? Isn't it possible he was just being informative? I took it as, 'hey, you're not in the best place for what you want'.


    I agree. I read Ognis' post for what it was - informative. In my experience, his posts always contribute in a positive manner. However, I think some people mistook the tone of his post this time and took away messages that weren't implicit in his reply. For example, his suggestion to learn FL Studio was not meant to be insulting, just useful advice to try an inexpensive and easy to learn, yet very powerful, sequencing app. When I read the OP, I immediately thought the same thing that Ognis did. So, I don't think that this is necessarily the best example of the OP's intended point. That being said (written?), I agree that there are too many others with the "RTFM!" mentality around here, but the majority are very helpful.


    The way most people write is not very reflective of how they speak, or their disposition. It's really hard for most people to convey personality with letters.


    My boss is a perfect example of this. He's a great guy to talk to, but his emails are so concise and neutral in tone that it's hard to know if he's encouraging us or threatening us with termination sometimes. Scares the he#$ out of new employees!

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 14:07:08 (permalink)
    Perhaps all this points to the total lack of a proper education?
    Being able to write well doesn't seem to be a priority in our schools !
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 15:21:13 (permalink)
    good point(s), uptoolate.

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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 15:29:33 (permalink)
    LOL. This one cracked me up. If ever there was a "pro" forum, this is certainly not it


    Not only do I completely agree but on the other hand keeping that in mind every needs to realize posts like the recent "Sonar snubbed by the AES" is to be expected. Like it or not in this world you are judged by the company you keep. Please no flames just food for thought.
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    RE: Forum Snobs (There Are Just A Few) 2006/12/23 15:40:25 (permalink)
    Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with some educational tips now and again, it is, after all, how we learn.

    So stuff like "hey, you should change the thread subject", "please no all caps", "please include your system specs if you want us to try and help" are fair game, if not encouraged.

    But, yes, there are some snide comments out there. Some of them are just blowing off steam and I don't there is malice in them. When you answer the same problems over and over and the requests for help start getting more and more like tech support the heavy hitters on the forum are going to code a message in there about self-sufficiency. This is, after all, a huge free resource for people.

    And then there's the bad seeds (no, not Nick Cave and his merry band of drunken louts). It's the internet, it warps communication etiquette and some people just love to get their hate on. We all bear these people as best we can. I've been involved in a flame war or two in my day, so I'm not pointing fingers (at least not right now )

    It's our lot in life, we police ourselves for the most part.

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