Found out today that Presonus wants Sonar customers, offering Studio One Prof. at 1/2 pric

In other news.......
 
Noah warns land based animals that they might want to board his ark as apparently it's going to rain a lot.

RickJP909
This is old news dude.  We've had Presonus, Cubase, Protools and others all making offers towards SONAR users in these forums some days ago.

 
Hello Rick,
haven´t been aware that Pro Fools is making a special offer for Sonarians.
Can you give me a link ?
 
Thanks in advance
Pragi
 
 

RickJP909Presonus doesn't support MIDI so that DAW is dead to me! 

Am I missing something here? Presonus says this about MIDI support:
https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/210050203-Basic-Midi-Setup-New-Keyboard-Control-Surface-Instrument-Faderport
It doesn't sound as fully-featured as Sonar's MIDI support, but it sounds like it exists.

dsurkin

RickJP909Presonus doesn't support MIDI so that DAW is dead to me! 

Am I missing something here? Presonus says this about MIDI support:
https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/210050203-Basic-Midi-Setup-New-Keyboard-Control-Surface-Instrument-Faderport
It doesn't sound as fully-featured as Sonar's MIDI support, but it sounds like it exists.

The fact that they require a KB article to explain it rings alarm bells to me.  In Sonar (and I'd expect this from any DAW), you just tell Sonar to connect your interface and then route the MIDI channels to your hardware and that's it!  I believe it's because ProSonus use their own proprietary system to interface and communicate with MIDI, perhaps I'm wrong but it's a thumbs down for me as an extensive MIDI user.  I'd rather stick to something with over a 30-year proven track record.

telecharge

RickJP909
They're also doing a special price for SONAR users - funny that!!!

Like the Cubase deal, it's available to everyone. They just made a special landing page for SONAR customers to make us feel good.

I don't think that's true. The $149 is for SONAR users only. Other DAWs pay $299 regular crossgrade price, or $199 on special (as happened recently). So basically, the SONAR special is $50 less than any other DAW's special.
 

RickJP909
 
The fact that they require a KB article to explain it rings alarm bells to me.  In Sonar (and I'd expect this from any DAW), you just tell Sonar to connect your interface and then route the MIDI channels to your hardware and that's it!

 
Initial setup with SONAR is easier because it identifies MIDI controllers automatically; with Studio One, you need to tell it to add a keyboard. However that's a one-time setup and there are several templates. After that, SOP remembers whatever controllers you've specified.
 
The reason for the KB is you can do much more with customizing your MIDI setup. Unlike SONAR's global controls, you can assign specific channels to specific controllers as well as do individual filtering for different controllers. Also, SOP makes no distinction between control surfaces and keyboards - it's all MIDI to SOP. So the tradeoff is deeper customization in SOP compared to simpler initial choosing of MIDI devices in SONAR.
 

I believe it's because ProSonus use their own proprietary system to interface and communicate with MIDI.

 
Actually that's not accurate. All interfacing and communication with MIDI is done the usual way. However inside the box, think of MIDI as being interpolated to provide finer resolution. This is nothing new, for example the Panasonic DA7 mixer did the same thing so faders were quantized to 1,024 steps instead of 128. Because of this, if you fed a quick succession of 1-127 MIDI data, there was no zipper noise in the DA7 because the level gradations had 8 times greater resolution. This is why the instruments in SOP don't have zipper noise.
 
What can be confusing is that MIDI values are expressed as a percentage globally rather than 0-127 (although you can choose either option in the MIDI editor). The reason for using a percentage is so you can specify finer degrees of control.