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2016/04/19 17:26:01 (permalink)

Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries

Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries - any libraries that you could use with Sampletank 2 can now be imported.
 
Finally can use some of em old sounds...

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/19 18:34:52 (permalink)
Hundreds of people with 32-bit Sampletank 2 "Total Workstation" just cried out in joy. 
 
IK will make a fortune charging them to re-download all those soundbanks they no longer have copies of.
 
Let loose the endless complaints about their download policies!

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/19 18:35:30 (permalink)
Luckily I used the paid upgrade on absolutely nothing since purchasing.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/19 22:37:19 (permalink)
As they put it: "Now SampleTank 3 CS removes all limitations by unlocking the full software functionality including unlimited editing and import features. SampleTank 3 CS is a standalone player and plug-in that can be expanded with IK’s Instrument Collections that are available at any time from the integrated Custom Shop: Everything from rare pianos to signature artist drums to the new Miroslav Philharmonik 2 CE collection. Legacy VIs, libraries and user samples can also now be imported without restriction. SampleTank 3 CS comes loaded with 30 free instruments, 1.8 GB of sounds, 81 MIDI patterns and 2 loop kits.
SampleTank 3 CS gives users the ability to edit factory and user instruments to meet the needs of every production. Although it was previously only available in the full version of SampleTank 3, now every user can edit any instrument down to the finest detail absolutely free. SampleTank 3 provides a full arsenal of classic and modern filters that can be modulated by LFOs and envelopes that secures its place among the world’s best virtual instruments. From the classic transistor ladder lowpass to the cutting-edge phaser filter, SampleTank 3 CS has it all. With coveted features such as the STRETCH™ Engine and an arsenal of 55 studio-quality plug-in effects processors, SampleTank 3 CS is a powerhouse for the modern music maker.
SampleTank 3 CS comes with a core collection of sounds that represent every category to get users started. With over 1.8 GB of sample content and 30 different instruments including an audiophile stereo grand piano, the included set makes a strong foundation for music creation. But it doesn’t stop there. Users can expand SampleTank 3 CS with titles from IK’s diverse range of SampleTank 3 Instrument Collections like the American Acoustic, Neil Peart Drums, Cinematic Percussion, Miroslav Philharmonik 2 and much more available as additional purchases that get directly installed into the user’s customizable SampleTank 3 library. Musicians may also import third party samples and their own sounds.
SampleTank 3 CS now provides the ability to import and play instruments from legacy, 32-bit VIs such as SampleMoog, Sonik Synth 2 and SampleTron into SampleTank 3’s contemporary 64-bit architecture. Legacy libraries such as the Xpansion Tank series are also easily imported."

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/19 22:49:23 (permalink)
IK will do anything to bring back the ST2 group buys! This sets the stage! As a bonus it also kills any chance of reselling the full ST3 unless someone is dying for the base content.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/19 22:56:42 (permalink)
Yes...but they said, and I quote...

There will be no SampleTank FREE...

You will NOT be able to import your legacy libraries with the FREE version...

Seems to me they should be running for President...IJS.... 


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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 03:30:46 (permalink)
I played with the idea to upgrade ST 2,
but now ,if ST 3 free can read my ST 2 library,
I don´t know why .
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 09:19:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/04/20 09:57:50
Well, I only bought it to import all the legacy libraries I had.
 
Once again I see why you should never buy an IK product when it first comes out. :/
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 09:43:08 (permalink)
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Well, I only bought it to import all the legacy libraries I had.
 
Once again I see why you should never buy an IK product when it first comes out. :/


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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 09:44:16 (permalink)
Agree. The free sample set is a nice gesture, but I think they should throw in jampoints too. They know full well that most people upgraded to use the legacy stuff.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 10:28:10 (permalink)
so I reckon it's 64bit VST3 and only installable via IK gear store???

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 10:50:51 (permalink)
Then again, the full version of ST3 has 33 GB of stuff, including some really nice pianos.

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 10:52:27 (permalink)
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Yes...but they said, and I quote...

There will be no SampleTank FREE...

You will NOT be able to import your legacy libraries with the FREE version...

Seems to me they should be running for President...IJS.... 


I don't find where we said that (I don't think saying "and I quote" followed by zero actual quotes is the way that works, IJS).  Personally, I find that our official statement about ST3 being 64-bit only included a statement that there would be no free version "at release" and my statement was "There is no plan to release a free/player version upon release, and we have no proposed date or set plan for what the future will hold for one at this time." (that's directly from KVR [edit, and from April 2014 so months before release to set proper expectations]) or very similar to that.  Sorry if that was not clear.  I also mentioned - really hinted when you look back at it - by referencing the product arc or trajectory of ST2 and how long it was before that had a free version that supported/imported the commercial libraries...  Again, sorry if this was interpreted as a hard "never" but I did my best to go out of my way not say that for this very reason.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 11:00:23 (permalink)
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so I reckon it's 64bit VST3 and only installable via IK gear store???


It is 64-bit only, Audio Units (Mac only obviously), VST 2, VST 3, AAX per the Specs page: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletankcs/index.php?pp=sampletank-cs-specs
 
You can find it in your IK User Area under "My Products"
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 11:08:34 (permalink)
I've always tried to avoid bashing IK, but I gotta tell you - it seems you guys strategize on ways to upset your customers. 
 
I have a lot of your stuff, but I've made the decision not to buy anything else from you in the future.
 
That's all I'll say on this.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 11:18:39 (permalink)
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I've always tried to avoid bashing IK, but I gotta tell you - it seems you guys strategize on ways to upset your customers. 
 
I have a lot of your stuff, but I've made the decision not to buy anything else from you in the future.
 
That's all I'll say on this.


Thank you for your input.  I will try to choose my words even more carefully going forward as I though the "upon release" was clear to more folks than it apparently was... I also tried to inform people of the similar product arc of ST2 for those that were not aware that it was almost exactly the same there (and to provide realistic expectations for those who were aware of the free ST2 that supported the libraries coming out years after the initial non-free release).  Again, thanks for your input I'll relay the concerns and comments from you and others.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 11:21:14 (permalink)
I just wanted you to know I do appreciate your response and your presence on this forum.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 11:44:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/04/20 11:52:58
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You will NOT be able to import your legacy libraries with the FREE version...

I don't find where we said that (I don't think saying "and I quote" followed by zero actual quotes is the way that works, IJS).

http://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/viewtopic.php?t=8796&p=47571 :
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SampleTank 3 Free was released to give an opportunity to demo the quality of the SampleTank 3 sounds and features. The 32-bit legacy instruments will continue to work as they were sold (in 32-bit environments) and will import into SampleTank 3 full.

The same post mention "another thread" where the decision is explained.
 
All relevant questions on your forum are answered the same way. And now you say that had to be interpreted as "importing legacy libraries is not possible in THE CURRENT version of ST3 free?"
 
I do not have many IK products, but which I have are nice. At the same time IK marketing politic is a ping-pong game between "collect as much as we can" and "attract as many users as we can", ignoring any logical sequences.
The last 2 exampled: "upgrade to import your library" -> "download new version to import your library" and "ST3 packs group buy" -> "Max version" can really upset some customers...

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 12:55:51 (permalink)
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You will NOT be able to import your legacy libraries with the FREE version...

I don't find where we said that (I don't think saying "and I quote" followed by zero actual quotes is the way that works, IJS).

http://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/viewtopic.php?t=8796&p=47571 :
Peter_IK
SampleTank 3 Free was released to give an opportunity to demo the quality of the SampleTank 3 sounds and features. The 32-bit legacy instruments will continue to work as they were sold (in 32-bit environments) and will import into SampleTank 3 full.

The same post mention "another thread" where the decision is explained.
 
All relevant questions on your forum are answered the same way. And now you say that had to be interpreted as "importing legacy libraries is not possible in THE CURRENT version of ST3 free?"
 
I do not have many IK products, but which I have are nice. At the same time IK marketing politic is a ping-pong game between "collect as much as we can" and "attract as many users as we can", ignoring any logical sequences.
The last 2 exampled: "upgrade to import your library" -> "download new version to import your library" and "ST3 packs group buy" -> "Max version" can really upset some customers...


I don't see where that is stating anything but how SampleTank Free was currently working, nor how it implies there would never be a future version that imports.  I do not think I was unclear at all and the "other thread" is the official explanation about why SampleTank 3 was 64-bit only and stated very clearly (and months before SampleTank 3 was even released) that there would be no free version that imports at release ("The decision to not have a free version at release...").  All relevant questions were answered stating that there was no free version that imports at that time, upon/at release, or similar and I gave any information I had about plans (or lack thereof) specifically at that time.  The arc of this version is nearly identical to that of SampleTank 2.x which did not have a fully-functioning free version for quite a long time (around 2 years if I recall correctly) so for that reason I don't believe this update should be all that surprising.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 13:00:34 (permalink)
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I just wanted you to know I do appreciate your response and your presence on this forum.


I do appreciate your post and your appreciation.  Wait, "I appreciate your appreciation"??  OK so much for my alleged careful word choice... ;)
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 13:16:20 (permalink)
Thanks for stopping in and clarifying things.  I'm diggin the IKM stuff I have.
 
Now PLEASE discount the bejesus of the MAX stuff so I can buy the EVERYTHING pack 

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 17:34:58 (permalink)
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Thanks for stopping in and clarifying things.  I'm diggin the IKM stuff I have.
 
Now PLEASE discount the bejesus of the MAX stuff so I can buy the EVERYTHING pack 


I will see what I can do :)  I would love to work that into the promo name but it might offend some.. and "We've discounted the snot out of the MAX bundles" doesn't sound any better (though not likely to offend as many).  We could get the Mucinex mascot on board too... ugh, ok even I'm gagging now so I'll stop.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 22:38:53 (permalink)
It took IK about two years to allow for a free version of ST3 accepting legacy import. I do appreciate that IK gave owners of the full ST3 version this head start, which seems only right.

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 22:51:14 (permalink)
See..this is what people miss...

The strategy is this...

Sell to the "must have first buyers"...then to the "ok...I waited long enough" buyers...
Then to the "ok...that's enough" buyers...
 
Marketing 101...don't buy in...just bide your time...don't let GAS win...
You can still "aquire" just down the road...

Politics as usual is the name of the game...

By saying "No SampleTank FREE" you'll get more buyers...
Then say...ST FREE won't import legacy instruments...
THAT will get people to buy ST3 SE....
Then, after all is said and done...release a ST FREE that WILL import Legacy Instruments...

It's all smoke and mirrors...and we buy it...literally...every time...

But IK NEVER said that...you just misunderstood...


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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/20 23:37:39 (permalink)
I am trying to think of another current software product that went free within 2 years of release. In this case it is safe to say that objectively and subjectively the primary reason to buy ST3 was to meaningfully use the fire saled ST2 libraries (which is another whole story to those who actually bought the stuff before the buy one get ten free group buys). So while yes, the paid version does include factory content, we all know that wasn't the main selling point and I'd love to know how many people buy the full version now.

As for the MAXX upgrade pricing, I don't get why it's so difficult to figure out what someone has and price the upgrade accordingly. Waves, Plugin Alliance, Melda and others have tackled the simple arithmetic needed to figure that out.
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/21 06:03:22 (permalink)
Looks like it's good time to get the full ST3. If ST4 is on the way and will use the same model as AT4 (stripped down AT3 version with a couple of new features and the content available separately), many users may regret not getting full ST3 during current promotion.

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2016/04/21 06:30:08 (permalink)
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so I reckon it's 64bit VST3 and only installable via IK gear store???


It is 64-bit only, Audio Units (Mac only obviously), VST 2, VST 3, AAX per the Specs page: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletankcs/index.php?pp=sampletank-cs-specs
 
You can find it in your IK User Area under "My Products"




Hey, thanks for the info.
 
I installed and imported the legacy libs - seemed to have worked fine. SampleTron, which I did like a lot, will see some use again :-) it had kind of faded away when 32 bit went out of the picture ...
 
I also took the time to update all my IK installations & plugs to latest versions ... hadn't done this in about 1 1/2 yrs because GearShop gave me lots of headaches back then and I wasn't interested in any of the iToys stuff - so I will also revive some of the TRacks plugs :-)

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2018/01/24 15:26:08 (permalink)
I know this is an old post to resurrect but it came up on a google search! I updated ST3 Free when I was reinstalling my VSTi's after a system update
 
I imported all the legacy instruments - I have a lot from ST2 days - and installed them. Although all was working perfectly for a few days suddenly ST3 Free wouldn't load into HS so on the advice of IK I'm reinstalling the instrument but this means I have to reimport all the ST2 instruments which is a pain. Does anyone know if this process creates a new copy of each instrument and if so where would it be. Also is there any way to short cut the process given that I have done it once already
 
Cheers!
 
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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2018/01/24 18:04:09 (permalink)
Did the same a while back. Interface is much better (working scroll wheel) and I believe it does make a second copy. I fairly sure I told it where e to put them on a data drive. I don't know what the default would be.

When I get in front of pc, I can look if there is something that would make it easy to search.

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Re: Free Version of Sampletank 3 can now import legacy libraries 2018/01/24 18:29:10 (permalink)
Cheers - it didn't ask me where to put them just asked me for the path of the original instruments. I've imported all of them now. Let's hope it lasts longer than it did last time! I loaded up a template project I'd set up for an orchestra and it can't find the original instruments so I will have to reload them. No huge task but irritating!
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