Freeze Synth Bug Or Normal Behaviour?

So it isn't just me that was wondering that.  Was trying to mix a song and then was constantly having to go back and adjust volumes after thinking that I had a good level for the track.  Maybe that is one of the fixes coming in the new update.

That is still an issue as of X1A.

Freezing should definitely disable the synth or there is zero reason to have it.  Otherwise you are wasting time to render, wasting disk space, playing an extra audio track (more CPU usage) the softsynth continues to play (CPU usage is just as high), and there is a doubling, as you say.

Ahhh, didn't see that extra drop down box as I have been doing it from the track and not the synth rack. 

Thanks Billy.

I haven't looked at the manual yet to determine if the Freeze function processes the Pro channel as if it is a function of the FX bin or if it is an entirely independent function that is always active once turned on regardless of the freeze.  Anyone know the answer to this one or am I going to  have to get un-lazied?

I think I may be talking about a different issue.  I'm seeing the synth itself continuing to sound after freezing - I muted the frozen clip to confirm.  This did not happen in 8.5.3.  I don't have any FX on this track.  This is a Reaktor module that doesn't require midi input - it generates sound as soon as playback begins even without a midi event.  On these "midi-less" softsynths you have to jump through hoops in Sonar.  In order to freeze it had to do the usual kludgy workaround of adding bogus midi events to the midi track at the beginning and the end of the section just to fool Sonar into letting me freeze the synth.  Same goes for bouncing to track.  Once I had it frozen, I was still hearing the synth in areas outside the frozen region. 

It had the freeze icons for the midi and softsynth tracks lit up blue, the frozen clip was muted and continued to sound.

chaunceyc


I think I may be talking about a different issue.  I'm seeing the synth itself continuing to sound after freezing - I muted the frozen clip to confirm.  This did not happen in 8.5.3.  I don't have any FX on this track.  This is a Reaktor module that doesn't require midi input - it generates sound as soon as playback begins even without a midi event.  On these "midi-less" softsynths you have to jump through hoops in Sonar.  In order to freeze it had to do the usual kludgy workaround of adding bogus midi events to the midi track at the beginning and the end of the section just to fool Sonar into letting me freeze the synth.  Same goes for bouncing to track.  Once I had it frozen, I was still hearing the synth in areas outside the frozen region. 

It had the freeze icons for the midi and softsynth tracks lit up blue, the frozen clip was muted and continued to sound.

Hmm, I wanna look into that one too -- but just for thoroughness, you do have the option set to "unload synth" after freezing?   In effect, it freezes the track (with whatever options you chose) and then disconnects the synth but keeps it in the project and synth rack.
 
Yes?
 
 

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ba_midi


Hmm, I wanna look into that one too -- but just for thoroughness, you do have the option set to "unload synth" after freezing?   In effect, it freezes the track (with whatever options you chose) and then disconnects the synth but keeps it in the project and synth rack.
 
Yes?
 
 

I don't have that option in my freeze settings.  However, I've since tried it a few more times, and the last two freezes did disable the synth (added the parentheses around it and lit up the blue snowflake on the synth in the synth rack).  So, it may have been a one-off thing.  I'll keep an eye on this because I do tend to freeze a lot of pads/soundscapes with long attacks and decays for more accurate playback.

chaunceyc

ba_midi


Hmm, I wanna look into that one too -- but just for thoroughness, you do have the option set to "unload synth" after freezing?   In effect, it freezes the track (with whatever options you chose) and then disconnects the synth but keeps it in the project and synth rack.

Yes?

I don't have that option in my freeze settings.  However, I've since tried it a few more times, and the last two freezes did disable the synth (added the parentheses around it and lit up the blue snowflake on the synth in the synth rack).  So, it may have been a one-off thing.  I'll keep an eye on this because I do tend to freeze a lot of pads/soundscapes with long attacks and decays for more accurate playback.

Hmm, PS - maybe it worked because you added in those extraneous MIDI notes on the Reaktor track (so you could get around the issue we know about).  THat MIGHT explain it?