greg54
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Freezing while recording vocals
I began recording vocals on my latest song. I use MIDI for everthing except guitar and vocals. When I started recording vocals, Sonar began to freeze, and it won't stop. If I play it back without recording vocals, it's fine. But when I start recording vocals (Audio), after I stop everything freezes. Not sure what's causing it. Anyone have any ideas?
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 17:00:10
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Lots of midi may be hard on your system. I see your system specs, and that should suffice you using midi and recording vocals. You may want to freeze your tracks first and then record your vocals while the tracks are frozen. Doing this will free up system resouces so you can continue with your song.
How many midi tracks are you using. Are they both audio and midi, or just instument tracks only?
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 17:00:49
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I began recording vocals on my latest song. I use MIDI for everthing except guitar and vocals. When I started recording vocals, Sonar began to freeze, and it won't stop. If I play it back without recording vocals, it's fine. But when I start recording vocals (Audio), after I stop everything freezes. Not sure what's causing it. Anyone have any ideas?
Greg
I assume your MIDI tracks are playing through soft synths? If so, have you tried freezing them? Depending on what synth and what FX, you could be pushing a big load on your PC. Brian
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 17:49:33
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Freeze your MIDI tracks then record vocals. Make sure you lower the latency before recording your vocals as you may not need high latency while all MIDI is frozen.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 18:29:23
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I'm using soft synth MIDI instrument tracks. I thought about trying to lower the latency as well.
But . .and this may be a stupid question . . how do I freeze the MIDI tracks? In fact, I've never heard of doing that.
Thanks, guys, for your help!! I really appreciate it!!!
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 18:36:25
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Right click the midi track.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 18:38:23
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That simple, huh? :)
Thanks!
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 19:16:32
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Greg
Also for additional help, try going to the top of the Cakewalk page and clicking on the support tab. There, select Sonar and then X1 and you will find a host of support topics. Click on the various tabs for more information.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 19:29:20
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It's funny 'cause the title almost answered your question. The other solution is to turn up the heat but that's not realy funny in this forum. But still your computer specs should be able to handle a lot before you have issues. I have a less powerful system and I can run a lot of MIDI without issue. But mine is optimized. What does the CPU meter show? Have you run a DPCLAT test? http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 21:05:09
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Jesse G
Greg
Also for additional help, try going to the top of the Cakewalk page and clicking on the support tab. There, select Sonar and then X1 and you will find a host of support topics. Click on the various tabs for more information.
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Thanks, Jesse!
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 21:07:15
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It's funny 'cause the title almost answered your question.
The other solution is to turn up the heat but that's not realy funny in this forum.
But still your computer specs should be able to handle a lot before you have issues. I have a less powerful system and I can run a lot of MIDI without issue. But mine is optimized. What does the CPU meter show?
Have you run a DPCLAT test?
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
I'll have to check the CPU. I'm currently on a different computer. Thanks for the info! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/05 23:57:09
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Well, I'm at a loss. I tried freezing all the MIDI tracks in the song, but it didn't help. In Help it says in order to increase latency, slide the bar. But it doesn't allow me to slide the bar.
I don't know if any of you have this problem, but after I record the vocals, the vocal track doesn't show the normal signal. The vocal track is solid grey in the track I recorded. If it allows me to play it back, I can hear it. But most of the time it freezes that way and doesn't allow me to play it back. I have to go out of Sonar and re-enter.
As it stands, I can't record vocals.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 00:21:07
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If you're using ASIO drivers then just click on the ASIO button and change buffer settings in the dialog box that opens.
The slider is for use with MME it WDM driver modes only.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 05:37:50
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How many Fx plugs are you using?
A quick workaround might be to simply click the Fx button in the control bar, thus disabling them all, record your vocals then switch the Fx back on.
On saying that, your system should be capable of absolutely smoking this type of operation - I could do all of this and more on my old DAW (Q6700, WinXP 32, 4Gb RAM)
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 06:16:13
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Are you running only 1 HDD? That should be your OS. You really need a 2nd for recording to, and I'd use a 3rd to stream samples from. It looks by your sig that you have but one...
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 09:32:33
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If you're using ASIO drivers then just click on the ASIO button and change buffer settings in the dialog box that opens.
The slider is for use with MME it WDM driver modes only.
I tried that, but it didn't help with my original problem. Thanks! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 09:34:54
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How many Fx plugs are you using?
A quick workaround might be to simply click the Fx button in the control bar, thus disabling them all, record your vocals then switch the Fx back on.
On saying that, your system should be capable of absolutely smoking this type of operation - I could do all of this and more on my old DAW (Q6700, WinXP 32, 4Gb RAM)
I'm only using 1 FX plug in for the guitar. I disabled it and tried to record vocals, but it didn't help. This is pretty much a new computer. Not sure why all of a sudden this is happening. Thanks! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 09:36:51
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Are you running only 1 HDD? That should be your OS. You really need a 2nd for recording to, and I'd use a 3rd to stream samples from. It looks by your sig that you have but one...
Not sure what an HDD is. Thanks! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 09:42:00
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Are you running only 1 HDD? That should be your OS. You really need a 2nd for recording to, and I'd use a 3rd to stream samples from. It looks by your sig that you have but one...
Not sure what an HDD is.
Thanks!
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 09:45:31
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HDD=Hard Disk Drive
In your Presonus' control panel, try setting your ASIO buffer size to 256.
Make sure you're using the Presonus' ASIO driver and not ASIO4ALL.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/06 10:55:43
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Yes, I only have one hard drive. I figured one was enough.
Thanks, guys! I appreciate the help!
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 10:40:04
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Well, I've gone through all the steps suggested. I also put in another 500GB HD. And to make sure it wasn't a virus, I did a scan - but no virus.
I had previously recorded guitar with no problems. But yesterday I was going to add a little more guitar on a track, and the problem is now on the guitar track.
So I inserted a soft synth to see if the problem was with MIDI as well. No problems at all. The problem is only with audio tracks. I don't get it.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 12:06:56
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You do not mention if you ran the DPCLAT test yet! No matter how new the computer you need it to be optimized for audio.
Anti virus programs them selves can cause a problem.
Most of us keep all internet and anti virus shut off.
It also seems like your audio drivers are not correct some how.
Are you dead sure you have the latest for your OS and 64 bit.
You system should not be struggling with a few tracks.
A screen shot of your audio settings might help.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 12:28:04
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You do not mention if you ran the DPCLAT test yet! No matter how new the computer you need it to be optimized for audio.
Anti virus programs them selves can cause a problem.
Most of us keep all internet and anti virus shut off.
It also seems like your audio drivers are not correct some how.
Are you dead sure you have the latest for your OS and 64 bit.
You system should not be struggling with a few tracks.
A screen shot of your audio settings might help.
I used to not use internet with my recording computer, but I found it easier to upload my music onto some sites. It is now turned off. I have not run the DPCLAT test yet. I will do that today. As far as I know, all is current. I'm going to keep checking everything and go over it again and again until I find something. Thanks! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 12:48:39
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Your specs seem fine so it makes me wonder if this is project (song) related rather than system related. You state that this is your latest project so I'm assuming that you have successfully produced other projects and I would assume they are of similar type and size.
Have you tried recording vocals in one of your other projects as a test? Have you tried creating a new project of similar size and scope and then recording audio?
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 13:28:10
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Just for the record, you can also freeze soft synths in the Browser (which I always have open on the right). There is a freeze icon on each soft synth.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 14:03:15
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Your specs seem fine so it makes me wonder if this is project (song) related rather than system related. You state that this is your latest project so I'm assuming that you have successfully produced other projects and I would assume they are of similar type and size.
Have you tried recording vocals in one of your other projects as a test? Have you tried creating a new project of similar size and scope and then recording audio?
Regards,
As I think about it, a while back I inserted a plug-in and my computer froze. I deleted the plug-in, but the computer kept freezing. But it was only with that particular song. MAYBE a new plug-in is the culprit, as I am using a new one in this song. I'm going to try your suggestion and record vocals in an older song and see what happens. Thanks! Greg
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 14:29:05
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C'moooon! What plug-in was it? Someone might be able to give clear answers right away if you told the name. Only a dll-file or other folders created as well?
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 14:39:06
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have you restarted the computer since you removed the plug that was causing issues?
Every now and then the platform I use which is generally rock solid and stable gets a bit flaky and exhibits some strange behavior.
I simply shut down the whole system.... interface included and do a fresh boot/restart of everything.
That normally solves it. Sometimes the firewire interface I use seems to lose it's comm link with the DAW. This can manifest in the form of stuttering, crashes, no audio, synths not working, and freezing. It's rare for this to happen in my system but a restart solves it.
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Re:Freezing while recording vocals
2012/06/07 14:51:50
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If you suspect one or more plug-ins, you can hold down shift while you click the project you want to open. Sonar will then ask you one by one if you want to load the plug-ins. You can say "No" to the ones you suspect and see if that solves the issue; or you can say "No" to all and see if you have the problem with no plug ins.
Note that No to All kills a lot of the built in plug-ins (like Pro Channel components, metronome, etc.).
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