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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/08 00:00:40 (permalink)
You have purpose too...self-expression. Don't underestimate what you learn about yourself in the process of making music, and how it affects your entire being.

The full-length, 12-song "video album" Neo-Psychedelic Music for the 21st Century is now posted on my YouTube channel - yes, it was all done with SONAR.
 
Note: The opinions expressed in this post were written by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity and do not necessarily reflect the views of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/08 07:14:12 (permalink)
Thank you Mr Anderton.
 
Returning to the pre-mastering process: is there a reason to not use the 64 bit mixdown engine? I  searched the forum, but nothing showed up.
 
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/08 12:08:59 (permalink)
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Agreed...and to add to that, even if there was no practical or monetary reason for me to continue making music, I would do so anyway.


This is me. :-)

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/09 21:20:49 (permalink)
Week 136: Sonitus Presets - Yes, We Can!
 
I'm posting this on Thursday, because I'm going to be travelling all day tomorrow and hate to miss deadlines. Actually I was going to do a different type of tip this week (how to get a great blues harmonica sound), but didn’t have time to post the audio example so I’ll do it sometime after I get back. Meanwhile, let’s solve a long-running SONAR mystery: managing Sonitus presets.
 
Those who listen with their eyes sometimes dismiss the Sonitus plug-ins, but those who listen with their ears know that these venerable effects are unique and extremely versatile. However, saving presets can be confusing. If you use the VST header to save presets, they end up somewhere in the bowels of the scary registry—good luck sharing them or moving them to a different computer. (This is the kind of thing that only scook knows how to do, because he has some kind of powerful flashlight that allows him to see into the darkest corners of the registry.) Then there’s the Sonitus preset manager, which is actually quite cool once you figure it out.
 
But I ran into a problem where I couldn’t save presets or create new banks (not helped by the documentation not showing how to create banks correctly, although I eventually figured out that part). It would look like presets were being saved, but if I removed the plug-in and re-inserted, none of my shiny new presets was listed.
 
So, of course I did the standard procedure of going to the forum, and creating a thread called “MAJOR SONAR BUG!!!!!!!!!!! SONITUS CAN’T SAVE PRESETS!!!! SWITCHING TO REAPER!!!!” Three minutes later Cakewalk’s elite Forum Monitor SWAT Team appeared, analyzed the problem, added a patch to the Command Center, and all was well.
 
Ok…I made that up. What really happened is I contacted The Cakewalk 24/7 Express Support Help Line (code-named “Google Search") and within a few seconds, found out that you either need to a) run SONAR as Administrator, or b) fix permissions for the preset file.
 
SO WHERE DO THE PRESETS LIVE, ANYWAY?
 
The Presets created using the Sonitus Preset Manager live in C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Plugins as .ini files. They include the name of the Sonitus effect, e.g., FxModulatorDX.ini. If you need to fix permissions, right-click on the file, choose Properties, and under Security, enable “Full Control” permissions for everyone.
 
HOW DO YOU CREATE A BANK?
 
When you want to save a preset into a new bank, click on the Presets button and choose Add Preset. Click in the “Add to Bank” field and type in the name for the new Bank. Give the preset a name, click Add, and now the preset manager will show the Bank with the preset you just made.
 

 
However, we’re not done yet: click on the Presets button, choose Preset Manager, and click on Save. Now your new bank and preset will be written to the .ini file. (Note that while you can open the .ini file in Notepad and see parameters and such, that’s not recommended. Make any desired changes within the Preset Manager.)
 
If you want to keep the original factory presets, rename the original file - for example FxModulatorDX_old.ini. That way the plug-in will load the new FxModulatorDX.ini presets, but you can also import the old one if desired.
 
A COUPLE COOL FEATURES YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED
 
If you call up a preset and modify it, you can update the stored preset by clicking on the Presets button and choosing Update Preset (this also lets you see the preset name, which otherwise isn't visible in the plug-in). You still need to Save using the Preset Manager to make any changes permanent. 
 
Also note that you can have two different Setups, i.e., two variations on the same effect or different effects entirely, as well as copy one setup to another if you want to try out some tweaks so you can compare the two without altering the original preset. If you update a preset as described above, you can update based on either setup. Also note that you can export individual presets, Banks, or if you click on “Available [name of plug-in] Presets” in the Preset Manager, you can export all presets and Banks for that effect. Remember to save after importing something.
 
SO WHY DOES THIS MATTER?
 
Because the Sonitus effects are wonderful. As just one example, the Modulator can do true though-zero flanging that really does sound like tape flanging, dual-voice resonators where you can vary one voice smoothly over an octave range (almost like a variation on portamento), and even some lofi effects—like the sound of a trashed speaker, a bad boombox, or a warped record…as well as add vibrato to a “flattened” Melodyne note.
 
Over the years I’ve created a bunch of presets for various Sonitus effects, and they are an essential part of my SONAR toolbox. Here are just a few of the ones I’ve created for the Modulator.
 

 
These plug-ins may be from 2003, but Ultrafunk—the Norwegian company that created them—got it right. Ignore these plug-ins at your own peril.

The full-length, 12-song "video album" Neo-Psychedelic Music for the 21st Century is now posted on my YouTube channel - yes, it was all done with SONAR.
 
Note: The opinions expressed in this post were written by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity and do not necessarily reflect the views of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/09 21:44:36 (permalink)
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...good luck sharing them or moving them to a different computer.
 
Over the years I’ve created a bunch of presets for various Sonitus effects, and they are an essential part of my SONAR toolbox.



Thanks for another great tip, Craig. Any chance you're willing to share some of these? You know, for testing purposes.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/09 22:11:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/03/09 22:21:43
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...good luck sharing them or moving them to a different computer.
 
Over the years I’ve created a bunch of presets for various Sonitus effects, and they are an essential part of my SONAR toolbox.



Any chance you're willing to share some of these? You know, for testing purposes.



Stay tuned...there's a reason why I didn't show the bank name. All will be revealed at the appropriate time.

The full-length, 12-song "video album" Neo-Psychedelic Music for the 21st Century is now posted on my YouTube channel - yes, it was all done with SONAR.
 
Note: The opinions expressed in this post were written by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity and do not necessarily reflect the views of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/09 22:40:40 (permalink)
I would credit the Sonitus FX suite as one of the core reasons I've stuck with SONAR over the years.
 
Minor correction: the Sonitus:fx suite from Ultrafunk was introduced with SONAR 3 Produced, in 2003, not 2013.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 02:25:29 (permalink)
Yeah I keep using the gate and the comp too for quick ducking via sidechain when I need it.
The delay has snuck into some mixes here and there.
 
Have you ever tried the dbx 165 preset on the comp?
Pretty special.

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 03:02:12 (permalink)
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I would credit the Sonitus FX suite as one of the core reasons I've stuck with SONAR over the years.
 
Minor correction: the Sonitus:fx suite from Ultrafunk was introduced with SONAR 3 Produced, in 2003, not 2013.




Damn decimals! Fixed, thanks.
 
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 03:30:50 (permalink)
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Have you ever tried the dbx 165 preset on the comp?
Pretty special.




Count me as a fan. It's the only dbx 160-series emulation I own, though I wonder how the other "proper" emulations stack up.
 
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Damn decimals! Fixed, thanks.
 



Eh, what's a decade here and there?
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 03:39:45 (permalink)
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 03:54:15 (permalink)
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http://www.waves.com/plug...view-with-eddie-kramer
 
no comparison




Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm trying to stay out of the Waves ecosystem. Between the 1 machine at a time limitation and the WUP, it isn't attractive to me.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 04:06:51 (permalink)
sorry for off topic, but wup is optional, not even an issue, but i respect your choice
 
(and sonar is also one machine at a time)
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 06:25:35 (permalink)
As always, great tip Craig.  It's amusing that most of the "cons" of Sonar that I've read always include "much of their fx and synths are a bit dated".
 
Your words are highly ironic though:
"So, of course I did the standard procedure of going to the forum, and creating a thread called “MAJOR SONAR BUG!!!!!!!!!!! SONITUS CAN’T SAVE PRESETS!!!! SWITCHING TO REAPER!!!!”
 
One of the criticisms about Reaper I hear really are "well they do have some nice fx, but there's not a decent synth to be had".
 
The clock just struck midnight so I am now 55, and I am buying Reaper (and your Sonar Tips & Tricks thingy), but Sonar will always be my primary daw.  Reaper somehow fascinates me, and it's really not a complementary daw with Sonar (they both share some common weaknesses) but it's soo inexpensive and all of my CW stuff works perfectly in it.  Thanks again.  
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 07:04:18 (permalink)
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The clock just struck midnight so I am now 55, and I am buying Reaper (and your Sonar Tips & Tricks thingy), but Sonar will always be my primary daw Reaper somehow fascinates me, and it's really not a complementary daw with Sonar (they both share some common weaknesses) but it's soo inexpensive and all of my CW stuff works perfectly in it.  Thanks again.  




that right there, regardless of if it is reaper or pro tools, or cubase or ableton or studio one or whatever, your cutting yourself off from something you may find better suits you before you even begin, i'll never understand that, you may well find that the daw you are looking at just gels with you better, fits you better , appeals to you more, but for whatever reason you are cutting that chance off before it can even begin by saying "but sonar will always be my primary daw" i see this said every now and then with people posting in the software sub forum when trying another daw, they say the exact same thing, is it some misplaced foolish allegiance to a company?, some sort of emotional tie?, a need to feel part of something?, emotional attachment to a piece of software?, being so attached to a forum that people don't want to be seen as leaving sonar or being disloyal in some bizarre way? some kind of self imposed peer pressure?.  i don't mean to be pointing this at you personally, it is no way personal, i just don't understand it for the life of me, why people feel the need when exploring a competing product to preempt it with things like "but sonar will always be my primary daw", never will understand it. if i try something new it's with an open mind, and if i feel it is better, suits me better, i'm gone without a second thought. if people like you or not because of what daw you use, they are not worth knowing, if people treat you differently, or don't talk to you the same because you move on to a competing product, they are are not worth knowing. i'll never get it
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 08:04:43 (permalink)
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The clock just struck midnight so I am now 55, and I am buying Reaper (and your Sonar Tips & Tricks thingy), but Sonar will always be my primary daw Reaper somehow fascinates me, and it's really not a complementary daw with Sonar (they both share some common weaknesses) but it's soo inexpensive and all of my CW stuff works perfectly in it.  Thanks again.  




that right there, regardless of if it is reaper or pro tools, or cubase or ableton or studio one or whatever, your cutting yourself off from something you may find better suits you before you even begin, i'll never understand that, you may well find that the daw you are looking at just gels with you better, fits you better , appeals to you more, but for whatever reason you are cutting that chance off before it can even begin by saying "but sonar will always be my primary daw" i see this said every now and then with people posting in the software sub forum when trying another daw, they say the exact same thing, is it some misplaced foolish allegiance to a company?, some sort of emotional tie?, a need to feel part of something?, emotional attachment to a piece of software?, being so attached to a forum that people don't want to be seen as leaving sonar or being disloyal in some bizarre way? some kind of self imposed peer pressure?.  i don't mean to be pointing this at you personally, it is no way personal, i just don't understand it for the life of me, why people feel the need when exploring a competing product to preempt it with things like "but sonar will always be my primary daw", never will understand it. if i try something new it's with an open mind, and if i feel it is better, suits me better, i'm gone without a second thought. if people like you or not because of what daw you use, they are not worth knowing, if people treat you differently, or don't talk to you the same because you move on to a competing product, they are are not worth knowing. i'll never get it


WTH?  I've been using CW products since '96 and my brain is pretty hard-wired to their conventions, and I don't really care about what you'll "never understand".  I'm guessing you say that a lot if you use it  twice in the same paragraph.
 
As to "community" and Sonar, I've never met anyone who puts it down and I often chuckle about the bbs "reality" that really bothers some people.   And lay off the advice about what to do "if people don't like you" or "being treated differently".  My birthday lasts about a fortnight, and I've never had a disagreement about a daw.  People like what they like.  Have a good weekend.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 11:08:49 (permalink)
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The clock just struck midnight so I am now 55


Happy birthday!! 

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 15:25:33 (permalink)
Thanks again Craig.  Looking forward to the coming "behind the curtain" tease.
 
And Happy Birthday Declan. 

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/10 16:53:29 (permalink)
Bought your book and I am really enjoying it.  Has given me some different perspectives for sure.  Recently re-awakened to the Sonitus plug-ins when I needed some help in a mix-down.  Thank you for your efforts.  Great as ever.
 
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/11 05:24:03 (permalink)
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declan
 
 
The clock just struck midnight so I am now 55


Happy birthday!! 


Thanks, it's been a good one.
 
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/11 05:25:06 (permalink)
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Thanks again Craig.  Looking forward to the coming "behind the curtain" tease.
 
And Happy Birthday Declan. 


Thank you.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/11 14:28:56 (permalink)
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sorry for off topic, but wup is optional, not even an issue, but i respect your choice
 
(and sonar is also one machine at a time)


Not the same though, you can install the software on multiple machines and move seemlessly between them.  With waves you have move licenses between your machines, which is minor hassle.  

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/11 20:17:33 (permalink)
Thanks for this Craig.  I've always used Sonar's Plugin Manager to backup plugin presets.  It's slow but I do know where they end up.
 
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/12 21:17:07 (permalink)
Thanks for both the tip and the chuckle! I appreciated the "Forum SWAT team" bit! LOL
I still use mine, mostly because I'm used to them and they still sound good!
 
AND Happy Birthday Declan!
I thought I posted this before .... but it showed up "later".... must be the time change! LOL
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/13 22:30:33 (permalink)
Anderton
 
 
So, of course I did the standard procedure of going to the forum, and creating a thread called “MAJOR SONAR BUG!!!!!!!!!!! SONITUS CAN’T SAVE PRESETS!!!! SWITCHING TO REAPER!!!!” Three minutes later Cakewalk’s elite Forum Monitor SWAT Team appeared, analyzed the problem, added a patch to the Command Center, and all was well.
 




people who do this really irk me.
 
cool tip, thank you!
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/16 00:35:29 (permalink)
https://youtu.be/VrXlsz2hLQk
 
Video tip showing how to add channel tools to an effect chain and map a nob that defaults to center and gives the illusion of pan or stereo location while leaving the sound in both right and left channels.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one is me trying to match TH3 sounds to real amp sounds.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/16 03:25:31 (permalink)
Thanks so much Craig! We're driving blind without you at the wheel.  This does beg a question. Why oh Why aren't the permission ticked and ready to save presets upon installation. I struggled with saving presets like you mentioned, I would save them to only see they were not really saved when I recalled the plug. Case in point, your lifter fx chain that used 2 instances of the sonitus compressor. 
 
BTW - the lifter fx is one of my favorites on the 2-buss for a lot of projects. I tried it on a guitar only buss last night and it worked very well there as well. Thank You for that chain!
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/17 22:00:13 (permalink)
Friday’s Tip of the Week #137: Get More Out of TH3 Cakewalk Edition
 
Welcome to a special "stuck in the Houston airport while my 3:35 PM departure gets shifted to an 8:00 PM departure" Friday's Tip of the Week. This is Day 2 of my trying to get home from Ft. Lauderdale, after being at sea since March 11th. Fortunately, due to my inherent distrust of airline schedules (note to Delta: It probably wasn't a good idea to name your airline after the Greek symbol for "change"...just sayin'), I had the presence of mind to prepare this tip before leaving. And amazingly, the wi-fi here actually functions! So we're good to go. 
  
TH3 has a Splitter module—drag the little button in the “pedalboard” section’s lower left corner into a signal chain, and you’ll insert a split that’s great for parallel processing. What TH3 Cakewalk Edition doesn’t have is an equalizer. Sure, you can put an equalizer before it or after it in the FX Rack, but sometimes it’s cooler to have equalization built into the preset itself…or be able to put it in the middle of a TH3 effects setup.
 
However TH3 actually does have an equalizer, and a pretty cool one: the Splitter. That’s because the Splitter can be a crossover, so if you use just one of the Splitter paths, it can have a highpass, lowpass, or bandpass/notch response. And the Splitter can go anywhere within a TH3 preset—at the beginning, end, or in the middle.
 
So here’s the deal for obtaining a highpass or lowpass response. 
  1. Set the Splitter X-Over Mode to Normal.
  2. Move the Splitter and Mixer output sliders all the way to the top. 
The X-Over Freq knob controls the lowpass filter frequency feeding the upper split. If you move the Splitter and Mixer output slider all the way to bottom, the X-Over Freq knob controls the highpass filter frequency feeding the lower split (although technically, it’s no longer a split because there’s only one signal path).
 
For the bandpass or notch response, do the following. 
  1. Set the Splitter X-Over Mode to Bandpass.
  2. Move the Splitter and Mixer output sliders all the way to the top. 
The X-Over Freq knob controls the bandpass filter frequency feeding the upper split, and Freq Spread sets the Q (higher values = higher Q). If you move the Splitter and Mixer output slider all the way to bottom, the X-Over Freq knob controls the highpass filter frequency feeding the lower split (although technically, it’s no longer a split because there’s only one signal path).
 
If you move the Splitter and Mixer output sliders all the way to the bottom, then the X-Over Freq knob controls the notch filter frequency feeding the lower split; again, Freq Spread sets the Q.
 
Also note that if you click the little crossover button in the Crossover module’s lower left, then that reverses the processed path. For example if you’ve set up the upper split to be a lowpass filter, clicking the crossover button turns it into a highpass filter instead.
 
So you’re probably thinking “okay, but why is this useful?” Here are two examples, but there are plenty more.
 

 
The above inserts a lowpass filter in front of an amp set for a fair amount of distortion. Lowering the frequency means that high frequencies are filtered out before hitting the amp, so they’re not distorted and don’t generate ultra-high frequencies. The result is a beefier, bassier sound that works great for power chords when you want to leave some room in the high frequencies for vocals and other instruments.
 

 
The next example inserts a highpass filter between the amp and speaker cabinet to reduce the low frequencies. This makes the cabinet sound more like an open-back type.
 
Note that there can be only one Splitter within an effects chain, but aside from that limitation, the Splitter-as-EQ can be very handy when you want to tailor a preset’s tone.
 
Okay, time to use my meal voucher to go grab dinner...

The full-length, 12-song "video album" Neo-Psychedelic Music for the 21st Century is now posted on my YouTube channel - yes, it was all done with SONAR.
 
Note: The opinions expressed in this post were written by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity and do not necessarily reflect the views of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.
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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/17 22:13:11 (permalink)
Thanks for yet great another tip, Craig. Especially liked the tip about filtering out higher frequencies from distorting to let vocals through.
All the best.
Edit: Have a good meal (if there are any) 

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Re: SONAR X August: 31 Days of Tips 2017/03/17 22:55:21 (permalink)
Thanks again Craig. 
 
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