From first idea to finished production - How long does it take you?

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Re:From first idea to finished production - How long does it take you? 2011/10/15 21:30:34 (permalink)
I love what I do so much now....if a nuke were on its way to NJ God forbid, I'd grab my dad, a few close friends, a bottle of home-made eye-talian red and record some stuff until I was a pile of ashes. :) 




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Re:From first idea to finished production - How long does it take you? 2011/10/15 23:43:14 (permalink)
It generally takes me a few months to finish a song. It's mostly just due to lack of time. And also because, since I'm a software engineer and I spend most of the day every day running my brain at 110% of reactor capacity, there's not much left sometimes at the end of the day. And I also am not just interested in putting out songs, I'm interested in mastering the process. So I won't just recording something and edit and align and automate and all that. I'll just come back to it over the course of some number of nights until I name a real performance.

Sometimes I get lucky, but that ego gratification usually doesn't last long. I was bragging to my friends that I laid down bass, guitar and drums for a two minute intro the other night, with the guitar being one take, the bass being a a few takes and the drums being one take, and no real time spend even struggling with tones. Then of course that caught up with me and it took me 80 takes to get the next guitar part down.

I find that I struggle the most at the very start and the very end of the process. At the start it's just to find some idea that I don't feel is completely worn out. I know my pop/rock music history well so that can be difficult. At the end, it's because as the song comes more together, there's less and less space to put something else in. I often struggle to find those little bits that just fill in some of the time and frequency corners nicely.

To fight the problem at the start I'll often just lay down some synth or guitar part, almost on the fly. Just come up with something to create a structure to get started. Then once I get a couple parts down, just throw away that guide track. It then often sounds like something completely different and far less obvious than the simple original part. Though, in many cases my original synth parts have become important parts of the song. Two my recent songs were done that way. Since I know the keyboard less than the guitar, I can often do something that's just as 'obvious' but it seems less so to me on the keyboard.

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Re:From first idea to finished production - How long does it take you? 2011/10/31 13:06:27 (permalink)
Steven,
Quite a great thread you've gotten going here! Some very interesting points of view and differences in approaches, but I think we all agree that it really depends on whether the material is your own or someone else's <for hire>. In the latter case, someone else has a deadline that forces you to get it done. In the former, most folks <myself included> tend to be a little less stringent on putting their project on a deadline. To that end, I try to treat my songs as projects of others. IN other words, I have a daily schedule of work that I stick to. 
Most of us have other work that allows us to do THIS work, so our hours of actually being productive are few, requiring that we make the most efficient use of them possible. 
I suggest putting that schedule in WRITING, posting it where you can see it and then sticking to it. IF you don't have at least that, you will wind up with a hard drive full of great uncompleted works.
That being said, no matter how many times you "finish" your songs, you will always go back and second guess yourself and come up with an "improvement". So, you must, at some point, declare the song as "finished", archive it and move on to another one, or you'll be forever working on that ONE song!!!!

Just my two cents...

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